GetInkspired (necro of old thread)

4 years ago | Sten Düring (Member)

Late spring there was a thread here regarding getinkspired as a publishing platform. If I recall correctly it ended on a note about preformatted text not working in their editor.

Anyway. Since a week or so ago they've got their act together. Italic and bold text remains italic and bold after publishing.

Can be found at getinkspired.com

I'm a user of the site, nothing less and nothing more.

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  1. DrewHayes (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Since I was looking to kill time this morning, I decided to see what had changed and checked it out. I have to admit, I had a pretty low opinion of the site after looking it over on the last thread, but they do seem to have pulled their act together.

    On the pro-side, formatting seems to have been fixed, which is nice, but was never the biggest hurdle from my point of view. That was their attempt to monetize authors through "premium" memberships, and as of scanning through the website this morning there's not a single sign of that to be found. Good on them for seeing a flaw and adapting their business model. It is a clean, pretty look with a very easy-to-use interface. Someone did a lot of work on the design, and it comes through. Following authors, tracking your chapters, all the functionality from a reader's standpoint seems pretty on point.

    However, there are a few negatives that stand out right away.

    Chapter limits: I'll admit, 30,000 characters per chapter limit will probably be enough for all but the most prolific of web-serial writers, but a hard limit of 50 chapters? That might work with some models, but even among those of us who break our serial up into different books (and not everyone necessarily does) that's a strikingly low number, especially when paired with the limit of how long chapters can be. Being forced to split books mid-arc, maybe mid-scene, when it makes no sense in the story, is a fairly large drawback from the writing POV.

    Gouging: When I noticed that they'd incorporated a contribution system, one that works like a cross between Donate buttons and a Patreon account, I was really impressed. That's great functionality, and takes the burden off an author of deciding when they've been at it long enough to set those things up and not come off the wrong way (maybe not everyone worries about this, but I did). Then I kept reading, and noticed the part where Inkspired takes 25% of all contributions. I don't feel like I'm drifting into the realm of hyperbole when I say that is ludicrous, bordering on predatory. Patreon takes 5%-9% depending on fees associated with the sources and Paypal is 2.9% plus a .30 fee. This feels like the attempt to monetize authors is still present, they just shifted to a model that sets off less red flags for people. Instead of taking the money out of the author's pocket through membership fees, they get their cut before it enters the author's hands.

    Overall, it is a good-looking, functional service, but it doesn't seem to be bringing anything new to the table that Wattpad or the others don't already have. Given the glaring drawbacks, it would really need to have something special in order to be appealing, even more so when paired with the fact that, as a new service, it doesn't have the reach of the more established ones. I'd say the worst part is it still feels like a system designed to profit off authors in the wrong way. Maybe I'm the only one who gets that impression, I tend to be a bit on-guard about those things, but with two separate attempts to monetize authors in their short history, it certainly seems to be part of their business plan.

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  2. ubersoft (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    You might be able to make an argument for taking a higher cut than Patreon, given that the site is specialized (i.e., focusing only on webfic would limit the kind of revenue it can bring in compared to Patreon's "any artist can play" model) BUT I agree 25% is waaaay too high.

    The 30K character limit is interesting (characters? why characters) and just to see I took a glance at the stuff I've written:

    Curveball Issue One, Part One (2,587 words, 14,242 characters)

    The Points Between Chapter One (3,202 words, 16,778 characters)

    Pay Me, Bug! Chapter One (3,679 words, 21,453 characters)

    The character limit doesn't seem like a horrible restriction for most (but it's definitely weird) but that plus the 50 chapter limit means you'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever get an up-and-coming Wildbow on your site. And people who favor short, frequent updates will hit that 50 chapter limit pretty quick).

    Curveball (Updating)
    A Rake by Starlight (Updating)
  3. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    In my opinion, no web platform should charge authors by default. If they took a cut from the total earnings, then sure, but the premium model seems counterproductive. Why would anyone pay for premium when they have unlimited options by publishing elsewhere?

    I could only see this business model working (maybe) if it did quality control and was really good at sending traffic your way. For instance, if readers could sign up for genres they're interested in and then be directed to specific serials that match their taste. Without the promise of reader traffic, the system falls flat.

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world. http://anathemaserial.wordpress.com/
  4. ubersoft (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    I thought Drew said the premium model was no more? They switched to taking a cut.

    Curveball (Updating)
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  5. DrewHayes (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Yup, premium model was gone, at least as far as I could find. Nothing in the sign-up/FAQ/sections I searched mentioned it. The 25% slice seemed to take it's place.

    Super Powereds & Corpies
    http://www.DrewHayesNovels.com/
  6. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Oh! I must have missed that. Why the character / chapter limit, then? If there is no more premium?

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world. http://anathemaserial.wordpress.com/
  7. ubersoft (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Their FAQ has this explanation:

    How many chapters can a story have? What happens if I need more than that?

    We believe in stories that are constantly evolving. A story can have a maximum of 50 chapters. If you run out of chapters for your story, you can create a new story as a sequel of the first one.

    Does a chapter have a limit?

    Yes. We believe that less is more, and we like the idea of micro-chapters, since they are easier to read and access. The limits are set at around 30,000 characters per chapter: which will be approximately 15-20 minutes of reading time.

    Setting aside that I do not believe "less is more," as I've demonstrated above 30,000 characters per chapter doesn't prevent you from posting long chapters. And if they were sticking to the "less is more" credo, limiting your total chapters and your character length doesn't actually encourage people to post short chapters. People who post short chapters will actually be disadvantaged by that chapter limit because they'll hit it faster.

    Curveball (Updating)
    A Rake by Starlight (Updating)
  8. DrewHayes (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    From what I read on the "About" section, it's something like they want to encourage short, defined amounts of reading, no more than 20 minutes or so. Or, at least that was the reason for the character limit. The Chapter limit, I have no idea. If I were to guess, I'd say they want to artificially inflate the number of "books" available as soon as possible, and making an author break up their serial into 50-unit chunks is a good way to force that.

    That is purely conjecture on my part though, I wasn't even able to find a reason, believable or not, for it on their site. Not saying it isn't there, only that I couldn't locate it.

    Super Powereds & Corpies
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  9. Sten Düring (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    As stated earlier, I have no personal interest in the site more than using it as a publishing platform.

    My guess is that the total amount of readers isn't large enough to make their cut an issue (25% of zero is still zero).

    I just wanted to announce that what was effectively a deal-breaker for me (non-functioning editor) is no longer a problem.

    As for the fifty chapter and 20 K character idiocy; I emailed them and wrote that the novels I started uploading wouldn't fit in (128 K words and 100 K words respectively). A few days later my account was upgraded to have no restrictions. Now i'm not saying they'll continue this indefinitely, but as long as their membership is counted in thousands rather than hundreds of thousands I believe they'll blithely upgrade anyone who asks because they need more original content.

  10. ubersoft (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Don't think we were actually attacking you -- I agree with Drew in that it seems they've improved the entire package deal significantly. The only thing that would keep me out is the 25% thing, BUT I notice in their faq and terms of service, etc., they don't require exclusivity so even THAT isn't horrible, because it's one more channel available to use. I mean, 75% there is 75% more than you get for posting on WattPad (because wattpad doesn't do donations).

    I am puzzled over the limits, though. I think they're probably an artifact from the earlier version and the unintended consequences haven't been ironed out yet.

    Curveball (Updating)
    A Rake by Starlight (Updating)
  11. DrewHayes (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Lol, ubersoft and I answered the question at the same time, only he actually did fancy research and took sample :-P.

    @Sten: The 25% thing is pretty inexcusable regardless of the amount, but you're right that it probably won't be an issue until money actually starts flowing.

    That they were willing to accommodate is a good thing, but their attempt to force short chapters and novels off the back makes me wonder how much research on the web-serials they actually did. I think we all tend toward longer than shorter, so I'm a little uncertain at who those parameters were built with in mind.

    If you are in touch with them (I remember on the last thread someone actually talked to the developers, not sure who that was) you might want to let them know that unless they broadcast the willingness to be flexible, it works to their detriment. If I were a new writer who had only read serials and was looking for a platform to start my own, I'd see those limits and immediately write it off, moving on to Wattpad or Jukepop, etc. Being flexible is good, but if the people perusing don't know it's on the table then it's going to cost them ample potential posters. Again though, if you're not the one who was able to talk to them, disregard this part. :)

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  12. DrewHayes (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    And to echo ubersoft, none of this is directed at you (except the part for passing along if possible). We're just breaking down the platform like we would if we were considering using it.

    Super Powereds & Corpies
    http://www.DrewHayesNovels.com/
  13. Sten Düring (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    No prob. I never felt like I was questioned at all. I just felt it was only fair that I announce that my personal deal-breaker was gone as I was the one who wrote (in the earlier thread) that a crap editor effectively made the site useless.

  14. Madiha N. Santana (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    25% of all contributions is waaaaayy too much. I wouldn't even bother to look their way knowing that number.

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