Gryphonwood Press now taking web fiction subs

14 years ago | Ryan A. Span (Member)

Hi guys!

It gives me great pleasure to announce that Gryphonwood Press, which has (among other things) published my own serial Street, has given the green light for a great new experiment; we are now considering web fiction for publication in novel format.

We've added some web fiction-specific parts to our submission guidelines on the site, which are pretty clearly written as far as I can see, and I've taken the liberty of copying them here:

"Web Fiction Specific- Completed books or series submit as normal. For active stories, submissions must be in a publishable format, i.e. the book you want to submit must have a clear beginning, middle and end whether it is part of a series or not. Even if we pick up your story, we will not require you to take down your site."

What we do for authors is also clearly stated in our submission guidelines. It's a hell of a lot better than self-publishing, so if you've got a story that falls within our criteria and are brave enough to put your work to the test, we'd love to hear from you.

Note: We don't currently have a specific set of submission requirements, but as a rule we only take top-notch publishable work. For example, stories where much of the page count is dedicated to graphic sex have no chance, regardless of genre. We don't expect your stories to be completely anaemic or politically correct but please keep submissions sane in order to save our editors valuable time.

Please pick up/spread this announcement wherever it may be appropriate.


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  1. eikasia (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago they'll continue doing this later on?

    If so, maybe after I finish this current arc of Eikasia (and edit it extensively--I know that as it is right now it isn't good enough for publication) I'll try and send it in for consideration. Eikasia won't be 'complete', but the story arc I'm writing will have a clear 'beginning, middle, and end' by the time I'm through with it.

    Thanks for telling us!

  2. Ryan A. Span (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    Oh yes, it's not a one-off event. This is a permanent opening of submissions to web fiction. There's no closing time or small print, the only way we might temporarily suspend submissions is if we get absolutely swamped with new subs. I don't reckon that's going to be a problem though.


  3. NiSp (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    this is fantastic news! i know i am nowhere near ready, but some others may be. in general, this is brilliant news for those looking for a publishing house for work they have already put up on the web. extra incentive now for me to forge ahead - with renewed vigour...

  4. Miladysa (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    That is great news and I am sure you will be swamped :D

  5. allantmichaels (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    That's great!

  6. EJ Spurrell (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    I'll bite. Give it a try at least.

    I'll send in a submission on the morrow.

  7. MeiLin Miranda (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    Well, Ryan, I've never done a count of how many pages of the History are graphic sex and how many are not. Big chunks will go by where there isn't so much as a handshake, especially in book 2. I'm curious about submitting, but I don't want to waste your editor's time if you think I shouldn't. (I'm just egotistical enough to take that sex comment personally. ;) )

    "An Intimate History of the Greater Kingdom"
  8. Ryan A. Span (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    Thanks for the encouragement, guys! We're very pleased with the response we're getting at the moment, and I'm glad I managed to talk Dave into doing it. ;)

    MeiLin: If you genuinely think your story's good enough to win people over with or without graphic material, then I encourage you to go ahead and submit. The sex clause exists mainly to help weed out the worst offenders. However, it's Dave's decision in the end-up and I can't say for sure what his verdict would be, so the only sure way to lose is not to submit at all.


  9. Sarah Suleski (Aspiring Mudpie)

    Posted 14 years ago

    If you've already put your book up through Lulu (or some other POD distributor) what are the guidelines? Do you have to discontinue your Lulu run before submitting or only if accepted? And are you allowed to submit your own artwork for the cover?

    I am a writer, a writer of fictions... and I've written pages upon pages trying to rid you from my bones
    (lyric from The Engine Driver by The Decemberists)
  10. Ryan A. Span (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    Sarah: Those are things we usually arrange on a case-by-case basis, I'd recommend sending a query letter to Dave about it before you make any decisions.

    Dave's a pretty reasonable guy, so I imagine he'd only expect a stop to Lulu runs in case of acceptance. It does make it a bit less attractive for us to pick up a book that's already available in print, though.

    We do indeed consider own artwork for covers, for example I arranged my own art for the Street series (which promptly got the artist hired as our go-to cover guy), and we do go out of our way to help and accommodate authors. The only real caveat is that we reserve the right to reject art if it'd make Gryphonwood look bad as a publisher, i.e. unacceptable content or quality.

    For anyone who doesn't have/want their own artwork, we can get in touch with Jan (see Street: Empathy and our new anthology cover preview) on your behalf and see if he's available.


  11. EJ Spurrell (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    Awesome, so I just made a submission. I'll wait for the reply, but how long does it usually take him to get back to authors on their submissions?

  12. Ryan A. Span (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    It depends on the submission, usually. Some are obvious rejections, while other subs may take a full read-through before a decision can be made. A particularly tough decision can take a few months.

    At the moment there may be another slight delay because we're moving the site to different hosting. Things should be straightened out soon though.


  13. MeiLin Miranda (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    A novel synopsis, I has it. Would anyone care to take a look at it before I send it off?

    "An Intimate History of the Greater Kingdom"
  14. Jaqhama (Member)

    Posted 14 years ago

    I believe the idea below should be vice versa...

    "Availability- Gryphonwood titles are registered with Books-in-Print and the Library of
    Congress, and are provided with an ISBN number. Books are available through all
    major online retailers, and are available to be stocked, fully returnable, in bookstores.
    As a new publisher, our emphasis at this time is on online sales."

    As a new publisher of print books GW should be looking at getting books into bookstores.
    There's hundreds of small press companies who sell online only. (Although having returnable books is a great step in the right direction.)
    I just feel that for a small or new publishing company to succeed, they need to get books into bookshops.

    The authors need to self-promote big time also.
    Get their books into local bookstores where they live.
    Have a book signing morning, advertised in advance.
    Mention it to the local newspaper.

    Have friends in other areas that frequent a particular bookshop on a regular basis ask if they can have your novel on dispaly in that shop.

    Take a hundred copies to any big book conventions in and around the local area.
    (A mate of mine in the UK does about one book Con a month, sometimes he sells one or two, other times he's sold all the books he took with him.)

    Whatever genre the book is: Historical, sci-fi, crime etc...both the Publishing Company and the author needs to join webforums specific to the genre and post up about their novel.
    Although some forums (and I'm gonna be polite and not mention any names, but they're mainly SF and F forums) don't allow self-promotion.
    I'm at a loss to understand why they don't want their members learning about new, small press books, but there ya go.

    But print books need to be sold in bookshops.
    That's the bottom line.
    Otherwise you're just a POD online publisher...and there's no shortage of them.
    It just depends on how serious a publisher is about joining the major players.
    Online books sales is the minor league.

    Now having said all that I've got a book out soon that will only be sold online...but it's a genre specific novel and I know the market for it is small.
    So I've already joined and got to know and made mention of it on the forums that the book is aimed at.
    So sometimes online can work...but normally for small genre or specific subjects.

    Cheers: Jaq.

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