How have we done so far this year?


  1. Shaeor (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Tanky: I can see why Trump freaks people out, he's kinda nuts, but so many voters are upset with the status quo that he has a real chance. Hillery, for me though, is everything bad about politics, the status quo personified. Seriously, when did the election become about the lesser of two evils? Please don't let me start a politics thing, I just talk.

    Wildbow: Early retirement and budgeting is awesome. Money won't bring you happiness, but it sure can bring misery - so hurray for independance! Ever heard of Mr Money Mustache? I intend to retire in fifteen years as well, or earlier as my options are a bit wider than most.

    As for me, this year was a sort of 'weightlessness' or 'change' themed year. I started on this forum a few months ago, ready to throw myself into a webserial that I would have likely burned out on and would have certainly not been too good. But between now and then I've taken the time to actually know what the hell it is I'm writing, and am now working on the backlog. I also had both my lungs collapse at once, twice, and came up with a plan to save the world... so yeah. As it is with this time period of my life, I find my eyes more turned to the future than the present. My Serial starts on January 1st and I'm not stressed about doing well, I just want to write the thing. As I've decided on a sort of existential optimism, I'm gonna make sure the future looks bright.

    Personally, we all deal with situations out of our power, but how we deal with those situations and how we prevent them is what makes us intelligent. We decide what our quality of life is, this isn't something I've learned this year but it is something I've started to understand. There's a difference between knowing something and living it. So yeah, time of growth.

    Merry Christmas everybody, may this time as well as the coming year, be bright for you.

    CHOSEN SHACKLES The screen is running static. Face your shadow.
    DIRGE The light is dying. Hold your breath and go gently.
  2. Wildbow (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    @ Math - Was in Ottawa, moved to a nearby small town just last November, for the lower rent. I take the train in to visit family there on the regular. We should meet for drinks & talk business at some point.

    @ T4nky - I see Trump as a positive. Not in how he acts or how he operates, but he is the result of the GOP digging their own grave. I can't foresee a reality where he wins, and whether he gets screwed out of the nomination and goes independent (splitting the republican vote, practically handing Dems the win) or stays in and loses, it puts the GOP in a really bad position. The GOP has only so many more years before it has to reinvent itself to stay current, with so much of its base being angry white men, and the Trump situation putting them in a bad spot for 8 years? It's embarrassing for the US, but it's gratifying that the Southern strategy is backfiring as it is.

    As for Hillary, I agree with Shae. She's everything wrong with politics. I really like Bernie, but he doesn't come across as presidential, and all I can really hope is that he can exert a kind of pressure on Hillary/the DNC by being there, forcing her to make calls instead of being horrendously vague.

    @ Shae - I got started with Mr. Money Mustache (Mr. Frugal Toque) and then did other research elsewhere. Canadian Couch Potato, etc.

    I think keeping expectations low and focusing on the craft and making sure you're able to keep it up for the long haul/do the writing are essential. T4nky's original post in this thread touches on the disappointment of setting your sights too high and then finding that reality isn't so kind.


    I also had both my lungs collapse at once, twice

    This is a bad idea. I don't recommend doing it again.

  3. Tintenteufel (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    I didn't know we were allowed personal stuff. *pouts*
    That way my year has been nice. I pulled myself out of a pretty ugly spot (depression, break up with my fiancee, no job, no money, no fun, nothing to do, shitty, boring university in no-mans-land, no real perspective for the years after) and am now least somewhat.
    Though seeing what you guys pulled through and survived is quite a motivator. :)

    I would always be interested in your results as to from where you did get all your views. :) I'm always curious how that works (even though reddit and wfg seem to always be the big providers).

    Sad to hear about your failed attempts at publishing. I think Solstice War is good and that you get essentially a mini-job out of it is even greater!
    If I may...maybe you should focus on that one thing? We've talked only a bit about overextension in this thread but it is a definitive possibility to spread yourself to thin.

    Aweeeeesomeeeeee. Christmas presents for next year seem to be taken care of. :)

    As to trump: I'n not touching anything that resembles european right-wing politics that closely. That man is disgusting, his voters are disgusting. There's no excuse to blame minorities and foreigners for the grave the USA have happily been digging for îtself these past decades.
    Trust us, we've seen it. :) Last time you stopped us.

    Blut und Rost - German Webserial about the horror that is human interaction
  4. Shaeor (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    I find it interesting that non-Americans follow the American presidential race. Makes all kinds of sense, but I think very few Americans pay attention to foreign politics. I get why people call us egocentric. Tintenteufel, don't demonize people, my father's an angry white man and will probably vote trump, he's actually not disgusting as a person. As always, I seen it as more complicated than 'Trump will blow up the world' or 'he's the best thing ever'. Voting for him isn't the end of the world, in my humble opinion. Ack, politics.

    CHOSEN SHACKLES The screen is running static. Face your shadow.
    DIRGE The light is dying. Hold your breath and go gently.
  5. ClearMadness (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Let's not turn this into a political discussion, or I will have to start ranting about how having Justin as our prime minister is so embarrassing. Politics should be in its own thread.

    Author of The Iron Teeth, a online dark fantasy story.
  6. Tintenteufel (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Okay, I've just realised I really don't want to open up this discussion.
    I apoligize if I misspoke. It was neither my intent to demonize someone nor to make assumptions about the actual people who vote trump. I do not know them. To make it perfectly clear: My disgust is of political nature, not personal one - again, since I do not know them personally. :)

    Blut und Rost - German Webserial about the horror that is human interaction
  7. Sten Düring (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Now I didn't start my main serial until April this year, but I've also uploaded two titles I finished ten years ago.

    As webserials go (or in my case OLNs on-line) the Transition and Restart series is my first. The aprox 230K words novels from a decade ago were aimed at paper publishing, and as such have a different disposition. Still, those two novels represent two years of writing, and that makes it a bit strange to say this is my first year of writing.

    My main site sees a few readers every upload. I guess most are robots. Add maybe a hundred individuals who have read the first book, petering down to maybe a dozen who are still clinging to my current updates on book number three.

    I have a feeling, but poor metrics, indicating maybe ten or twenty new readers monthly who start book one and slug it through to the end.

    Well, that's it from the pure hobbyist's side of web fiction ;)

  8. Jim Zoetewey (Moderator)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Regarding Trump: I don't spend a lot of time worrying about him. His support has a ceiling. It's high enough that I think he could win the Republican nomination, but not high enough to win the presidency--barring some extremely unlikely event that makes considerably more of the voting public feel desperate enough to try anything.

    As for my year... Well, like Ubersoft, mine was a mixed bag.

    The good: I finished writing another novel sized chunk of the serial. I also finished editing and am almost ready to release the first of two Legion of Nothing novels funded by 2014's Kickstarter campaign. I'm also beginning to fulfill on the rewards. Legion gained in readers and pageviews since last year, and people continue to be engaged and commenting.

    The bad: Editing the novel took much longer than I expected. Ditto delivering on Kickstarter rewards. It's a year later, and I'd anticipated three months. I had a bit of trouble structuring the plot of the most recent section of the Legion serial--which meant that certain things took longer to appear than they should have. Additionally, I had the occasional commenter that lost track of the fact that comments on a blog go to a real live human who has feelings. This didn't happen much, but I didn't like it. Plus while readership did grow, it didn't grow as much as last year. Last year had around 50% growth, so that was unlikely. It's probably closer to 6% this year which while still growth is disappointing.

    On the whole though, I see more good than bad. That said, my contract ends in February. There's no reason to think it won't be renewed right now, but it will suck if it isn't.

  9. Wildbow (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Editing the novel took much longer than I expected.

    Indeed. Editing really is a bastard of a thing.

    Additionally, I had the occasional commenter that lost track of the fact that comments on a blog go to a real live human who has feelings. This didn't happen much, but I didn't like it.

    I've gone on at length about the issues of being an online content creator and running into this. You tell yourself things before you really get underway, about how you'll handle criticism and how you'll take feedback into account, but it's really surprising how things actually work out in reality.

    It's not so much that you go and you run into that one overly critical guy and suddenly your day is ruined, no. It's signing on every day or every few days and finding that stuff. It's like getting up and getting dressed and eating breakfast and driving into work, and the person at the desk says, "Hi, Bob, you look like utter shit today" and you pause and you check yourself over to make sure you look mostly okay, nod, and go to work. And the next day you do the same routine and go into work and the person at the front desk meets your eyes and says hello and you wonder, and you get halfway through your day when a client comments out of the blue, "You're really not good at your job, are you?"

    And so it continues, day in, day out, often hammering the same points in over and over again, and it's hard, because maybe you weren't 100% certain that you looked excellent or that you were doing a good job, or maybe you have a really crummy day where your pet is sick and you're worrying, your defenses are down, and you get that unexpected comment, "Wow, you haven't learned a thing since you started, Bob. You're even degrading in quality, here." It hits you that much harder because you're not always prepared to be objective or careful about it. In the worst case scenario, you make one mistake and you hear about it for years later.

    For me, it's a little more than occasional, if you can't tell.

    A lot of content creators (and I'm including streamers, webcomic creators, youtubers, etc) have run into trouble with this. I've seen nervous breakdowns, people cutting themselves off, people quitting, and various coping mechanisms, both healthy and not. All stemming from the culture of negativity, and the people who don't see the person or treat the creator like a person. I think it's a fascinating subject and something that's worth discussing, keeping an eye on, and keeping a dialogue open about.

  10. Sten Düring (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    @Wildbow That's probably why writing communities (be they digital or not) all come with the same advice/rules that critiques be aimed at the content and never at the creator.

    However, the real world out there on average never took an active part of a writing community. Hence it's YOU who suck instead of: "Your main character Martin's actions and dialogue in chapter fifteen is glaringly out of character unless something changed him, in which case the preceding chapter fails at communicating such a change to the reader."

    Even though the latter is pretty scathing critique it still takes the scalpel to your words. I'm a firm believer that we as writers should suck at least that up and write better ;)

    But I get what you say. Having an unhappy reader slaughter your work and then go to shop on your grammar as well, in barely literate English to boot, really makes your day...

  11. Madiha N. Santana (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    @Tintenteufel: I am definitely shifting focus and concentrating on the basics going into 2016. I'm not setting any more pie in the sky book deadlines: I want to do it right, not "as fast as I can so I can do other things." And I'm going to tear myself away from doing side-things and focusing on delivering the story I promised in the installments I promised. I think I found myself flush with time to do things and instead of trying to do things better or more efficiently, I tried to do *more* things. It's a bad habit and everything that grew out of that ended up floundering on the vine. So that'll be my resolution for 2016. And thank you for the compliment :).

  12. Kess (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    On balance, 2015 has been a low year for me.

    On the plus side, I reached the end of Book 4 of Starwalker. It took 5 years to get to that point, has a pretty solid (though not huge) readership with regular commenters, and it's a story that I'm proud of.

    I celebrated getting to the end of Book 4 by taking a hiatus, and enjoying the opportunity to write some different things and try some new stuff.

    On the less-positive side, that's about when I ran out of steam. The last section of Starwalker was a lot of work to get through, and my enthusiasm for writing new stuff afterwards was outweighed by the lack of energy I had to actually pull it off. I wound up stuttering to a stop, writing-wise, and having to take a real break from it all.

    On top (and a large cause) of that, the day job laid me pretty low with stress for a good chunk of the year. As my family's only source of income, my day job is pretty important to me and our ability to keep a roof over our heads. Stress tends to hit my chronic fatigue pretty hard, which then hits everything else in my life, pretty much. I got one day job issue sorted (by changing positions), and started to get back on my feet. A couple of months later, they announced a bunch of redundancies. We had to wait a week to find out if we still had a job. I was lucky enough not to be cut (and thank goodness for that!), but it pulled the stress up again. I'm still battling to get back on my feet, emotionally and with this fatigue, in the aftermath of that.

    I had hoped to kick the next section of my web serial into motion in this year's NaNoWriMo, but that wound up being a wash. The spark just wasn't there for that story (or any other, really), and I wound up skipping around different projects for my 50,000 words. I'm starting to think that I need to come up with a different approach if I'm going to get Starwalker up and running again (and I do want to!).

    It's not all dire, though. When I run out of creative steam, I tend to turn to other writing-related activities. So I've been working on an anthology project (involving superheros and dinosaurs) with some local writers this year, and paying more attention to editing. I'm currently editing a local author's kickstarted novel and looking to line up some more. I'm also working on new editions of my ebooks so I can re-release them.

    This year has been a bit all over the place, and I'm aiming to get back to my serial early next year. I've been blessed with well-wishes and patience from my readers, and I hope I'm not trying that patience too much.

    I'm lucky in that I haven't had much of the negative kind of feedback that Jim Z, Wildbow and Sten have mentioned (I've had some in ebook reviews, but not directly on the web serial site; the latter would be harder to ignore, I think). Hope those who receive this kind of stuff don't take it to heart. You're awesome for creating stuff and putting it out there.

  13. George M. Frost (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    It's signing on every day or every few days and finding that stuff. It's like getting up and getting dressed and eating breakfast and driving into work, and the person at the desk says, "Hi, Bob, you look like utter shit today" and you pause and you check yourself over to make sure you look mostly okay, nod, and go to work. And the next day you do the same routine and go into work and the person at the front desk meets your eyes and says hello and you wonder, and you get halfway through your day when a client comments out of the blue, "You're really not good at your job, are you?"

    Hmm. I'd say it's more like being greeted by a crowd of people all holding up signs that are worshiping the ever living hell out of you--except for that one that's not. And then paying it way too much attention, because of course you're going to. It's only natural. It's the outlier. You need to take criticism in stride and try to grow from it. Except it's not even criticism, really, because fuck that guy, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

    's my feeling on the matter, anyway.

    As for 2015--for me, it was pretty awful in terms of productivity. Let a lot of stuff slip. Lost a lot of motivation. Got pretty discouraged. But it's fine. I didn't quit. It's not over 'till I quit. 'n I ain't gonna quit.

    The Zombie Knight Saga -- undead superheroics
  14. Whyknotzoidberg (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Wait hold on, people are negative about worm and the zombie knight? The entire 80,000 subscribers of whowouldwin practically worship skitter, and it's well loved almost everywhere I go.

    Also status report is: I was a dick and a hack in the summer, still trying to recover from that.

  15. Madiha N. Santana (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    As far as criticism/negativity and so on. I've always been getting hate mail: I've been blogging for ten years now and I was on social media basically when it started, so I've always kind of had a presence that's been easy for people to attack. I don't have any huge sort of notoriety, so the volume is not torrential, but it's basically always been there. I've been a weird internet person forever, so, I get heat.

    Nowadays I don't get as much hate on the content of my story as I get personal attacks. A lot of slurs usually. Those hurt because I'm a person pretty predisposed to hurt; but it's at least not as much of a drag on your motivation because you can just write those off. It's just bigots on the internet and continuing to write while I ignore their nonsense is how I beat them.

    I've been trying to work on not letting every bit of "real" criticism get to me when it comes to the story. I sometimes feel the urge to immediately do whatever someone is saying I should do, in order to "please" them, but I realize I need to really carefully analyze what people criticize and how I can work with their suggestions, and to what end. Even among constructive criticism not all of it is equal.

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