Looking for fictions with high-quality spelling/grammar to feature on RRL

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  1. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    I didnt see a bump, but there wasn't a link from Facebook to my story on RRL, was there?

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world. http://anathemaserial.wordpress.com/
  2. LEErickson (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Not seeing a difference (and there was a link from FB to my RRL page). But! It's only been a little over a day, and my genre is a little outside the RRL norm. I appreciate the shout out, either way!

  3. Dary (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Advertising stuff via Farcebook, without paying for it, is an exercise in futility, sadly. You're looking at someone like a mere 10-15% of followers even seeing the post, let alone engaging with it.

  4. unice5656 (Moderator)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Heh, looking at the statistics, I think a feature right now is worth 15-20 clicks. This will hopefully go up when RRL actually links to its Facebook page and it gets more followers. If I don't get any more applications, I may start repeating features.

  5. Lee Carlon (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    @Dary, that seems right. With 235 people who liked my page only a handful ever see posts. I was annoyed enough with Facebook yesterday to unpublished the page, it really doesn't seem worth the effort.

  6. Dary (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    You have to play the algorithms, and the algorithms are designed to bury things like links. That's why you see so many pages posting vapid, out-of-date memes: they get "engagement", and the more people engage, the more likely it is they will see your content.

  7. unice5656 (Moderator)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Facebook shows your posts to more people if you post an image along with your post rather than letting it fetch a preview from a link.

  8. Dary (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    They clamped down on the "post the link with a picture to increase visibility" thing a couple of years ago. Or have they done an uncharacteristic u-turn on it?

  9. unice5656 (Moderator)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Well, on my page, if I post an image, it gets roughly 1200 views (more if people interact with it). If I re-share another page's content, it gets ~400 views. Once, I posted something without a link or an image, and it got around 12 views.

  10. leoduhvinci (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Unice, are you still looking for fictions? I never replaced the grammar on Life Magic on RR, but I can copy over what my editor has revised. I'd be happy to put more chapters on the site but I couldn't really figure out how it worked, and found it hard to gain traction there. Perhaps you have some pointers?

    Also, I was fooling around with creating a mobile app for RR the other day, and it's really easy based on the way the site has been coded. Would this be a project the admins might be interested in me doing and handing off? I've noticed RR isn't very sleek on my phone and is slow, plus your demographics are prime for mobile advertising. I'd be interested in doing this primarily in exchange for publicity.

    Let me know (on both counts).

    -Leo

    View more from author Leonard Petracci,including fantasy and fiction stories, at https://leonardpetracci.com
  11. unice5656 (Moderator)

    Posted 2 years ago

    @leoduhvinci

    Yes, I'm still looking for fictions. I actually just featured my last approved one last Sunday.

    RRL actually just updated to V3 yesterday (which is mobile-friendly) and there are currently a lot of bugs and kinks to be worked out, so it's a bit of a chaotic time to be doing a push for more readers.

    We ARE actually looking to get more help on the programming side because right now we have only two programmers handling a huge site. I don't think poor Kana is sleeping ever since the update. I don't actually know anything about computers, so I don't know what qualifications they're looking for, but I can put you into contact with our admins to discuss if you'd like.

    In terms of getting traction on RRL, there are basically four ways that readers find fictions.

    1 (the easiest) - Get on the Latest Updates list. This happens whenever you post a new chapter, so shorter, more frequent updates result in more views. I've seen people who write longer chapters on their own site break them up into 2-3 parts in order to maximize exposure from this method.
    - When actually launching a story on RRL, I strongly advise saving up enough content for daily posts for at least a week. I'd also post at different hours of the day to maximize exposure to different readers from different time zones.

    2 (pretty easy, but not as much benefit as #1) - Be found through Advanced Search. Some readers use it to find the kinds of stories they want to read. Make sure your fiction is properly tagged with every applicable genre/additional tag. RRL actually just added a bunch of new tags with the update, so I advise everyone to go re-tag even if they already set up the tags they consider applicable.

    3 (a bit harder, but gives long-term benefits) - Make it onto any of the other ranking lists.
    - The Best Rated/Active-Only Rank lists changed to a formula that very heavily weights average rating, so it's now relatively easy to get on them with a couple of 5-star ratings from readers (To put it into perspective, a short story I wrote with a 4.98-star average rating is currently #20 on Best Rated with only 32 ratings). Basically, I advise that you add an author's note to the end of every single one of your chapters asking people to leave a review, as well as linking from your own site or wherever your readers live and asking them to leave a review. I also strongly advise that you don't direct traffic off of RRL until you are well into the story (for instance, don't link to your own site until the end of the first arc/volume, and don't link to your own site directly in the fiction summary). You need the views and reviews on RRL to get more readers.
    - Before, the Top Weekly list was based on total viewcount for all chapters added together, so spamming 3 chapters a day would pretty much guarantee you making it, but it looks like the formula has changed (I'll edit this once somebody tells me what the new formula is).
    - The Active-Only Ranking only lists fictions updated within the last 35 days, which I don't think anyone other than me on this site has trouble with :P
    - The Complete list uses the same formula as Best Rated, but of course only completed fictions are listed. If you have a completed fiction, you currently need to contact the staff to have the status changed to Complete so it will be listed, but I think in the future, you'll be able to set it yourself.

    4 (not that hard, up to you to judge the benefit vs. the amount of effort/money you'll spend) - get featured. This can be on Facebook, our front page, or in a forum banner.
    - There are currently two people featuring fictions on our Facebook. One is me, with my grammar standards. I really have no idea how the other guy is choosing. One feature will get ~1200 views and maybe 10-15 clicks. Now that our site actually links to Facebook, the number of followers should increase and the value of being featured should as well.
    - You can pay to have your fiction displayed as a "sponsored feature". I forget the exact rate for this, but I think it's something along the lines of $5 for 10k views, slightly cheaper per view if you buy larger packages.
    - I don't think this is an official program yet, but we're planning to offer front page features in exchange for well-written writing tip articles, for instance, things like, "What's a good intro?" "Getting into character" etc. We won't assign a topic and you get to choose to write about whatever area interests you. After a quality check, it'll go up and you'll be added into the pool of featured fictions. I'll probably be in charge of vetting these articles. Basically, we want things that are helpful, clear, and not too long.

    There are other minor ways to get views, such as posting in the forums and having links to your fictions in the signature, joining one of the writer's groups on RRL, and posting in the Promote Your Webnovel forum, but I don't think there's a lot of data to suggest that these help in a significant way.

    Wow, that was long. If you'd like, I'd be happy to look over your listing(s) on RRL and give you specific feedback on how to make it more attractive to readers. One of the important things to optimize is your summary. TL;DR is a very common phenomenon on RRL, so keep it short and sweet.

  12. leoduhvinci (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    First of all, I noticed the site change yesterday. On both my phone and computer, it looks AWESOME. Also it is much easier to navigate. Seriously, this upgrade was great and I've started posting there again after 5 months because of it.

    Secondly, thanks so much for your help. It takes a lot of time to successfully "crack" how to best use a site, and you've really opened my eyes. RR readers are some of the most loyal out there based upon the numbers I've been studying on the other sites that I have used, but I had trouble figuring out how to attract them. And since I was getting high traffic on other ones, RR took a temporary position in the back seat.

    For instance, I've never cared about reviews elsewhere, and it appears that's where RR puts a lot of their weighting. I'll actively seek some now- in the past, they were nice, but I never considered them crucial. I was always a bit scared to funnel my readers over to RR until I knew that I'd be there to stay, so that has held me back too.

    Thanks, and wishing you the best. I'd love to get involved in the programming side if you want to shoot them my email- LeonardPetracci@gmail.com Preferably mobile and backend.

    -Leo

    View more from author Leonard Petracci,including fantasy and fiction stories, at https://leonardpetracci.com
  13. unice5656 (Moderator)

    Posted 2 years ago

    No problem! Don't forget to apply for the grammar feature once you've copied in your edited content.

    I'll tell the admins about you, but our programmers are currently in a cranky, sleep-deprived state, so it may take a while for them to pay attention.

  14. leoduhvinci (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Give them a few weeks- I know how it is trying to launch new content. I'm at full capacity until the end of October anyways.

    And I'll give you a shout once I copy it over. Thanks!

    View more from author Leonard Petracci,including fantasy and fiction stories, at https://leonardpetracci.com
  15. ChrysKelly (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Thanks for all those tips, there, unice.

    Once I hit the prerequisite 50k, I'll submit mine and you can decide if it's good enough.

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