Multiple Review Requests

9 years ago | zoewhitten (Member)

Hi,

I've been a member of WFG for a while, quietly adding stories to the catalog. I could really use some help, as my stories have very few ratings, and many have no reviews or ratings besides the initial evaluation of the first chapter. So if you have some free time, please check out one or two of these links and consider leaving a review or rating:

Blind Rage (Dark fantasy/Werekin pack)
http://webfictionguide.com/listings/blind-rage/

Blood Relations (Dark fantasy/Vampire coven)
http://webfictionguide.com/listings/blood-relations/

Eddie's First Circus (Dark fantasy/Superhero/Coming of age)
http://webfictionguide.com/listings/eddies-first-circus/

Erick's Journey (Dark fantasy/Elves/Werkin/Coming of age)
http://webfictionguide.com/listings/ericks-journey/

Touched (Dark fantasy/halfling/vampire/daemon)
http://webfictionguide.com/listings/touched/

Waiting for a Miracle (Comedy/Super villains)
http://webfictionguide.com/listings/waiting-for-a-miracle/

Zombie Punter (Dark fantasy/zombie/gay romance/gay erotica)
http://webfictionguide.com/listings/zombie-punter/

I have a number of other completed stories available in my web site, and I will continue to add those to the directory over time. So I hope you will check out my bookshelf from time to time. If you can't find anything you like now, please don't assume that I always write the same stuff. Check back later, because I might have something closer to your preferences.

http://webfictionguide.com/shelves/zoewhitten/

Thanks for reading this, and for checking out my fiction! (And thanks in advance for anyone who leaves new ratings or reviews.)

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  1. Kyt Dotson (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    Sure! I've been pining at actually reviewing and doing some work here myself. As I've been writing and editing too much on my own and not being as social as I should be. I started yesterday by posting a review of a totally unknown author, but I might as well actually re-read people I actually know about because they're part of the community... Like you for example.

    It's the least I could do, we really need to stick together, the trad. publishing media do!

    In fact, which authors write on the back cover of given books sometimes make me decide if an unknown is worth reading. Since I generally read in the same genre, if I see another author rant, rave, or otherwise kudo someone I don't yet know it increases my likelihood of actually looking at their work.

    Preaching to the choir, I know. Just trying to dissolve my antisocial funk with the solvent of my passions.

    http://www.blackhatmagick.com
    BLACK HAT MAGICK vol 2: TANGO & CACHE - Not your ordinary detective agency
  2. Rhapsody In Prose (Inactive)

    Posted 9 years ago

    I don't review anyone's work here, and for good reason. I've seen what happens when you dare to dissent from the generally favorable impression of other reviews -- first, people freak out on the forums. The next step is for the fan club to start chasing you down, negging your work, and eventually graduating to leaving hateful comments on your blog/site itself. So I guess I could write something banally happy no matter how I feel, or just review the things I like, but it doesn't seem like that's much of a community. What I've alluded to is the singular flaw in any "social" media; there's nothing to prevent the internet Yakuza of fanbois/fangurls enforcing their own justice.

    I've seen this happen enough times and in a number of different places to be wary of it.

    May my words be balm to the hurting, and acid to the tormentors.
    Boring serial fic
  3. zoewhitten (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    Rhapsody, I can assure you, I won't attack you on the forums. Plus, I don't yet have a fan club to sic on you. Really.

    Kyt, it would be nice to get reviews, but don't feel like you have to be nice just because "we need to stick together." I've got a lower rating from a reviewer here on one of my stories, and I'm not upset by their being honest with their opinions. So please, feel free to point out things you don't like along with things you do like.

    That goes for anyone who might read this later. I hope not everyone is reluctant to post reviews for the same reasons that Rhapsody listed.

  4. capriox (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    Holy crap, RIP! I couldn't disagree more. I've written plenty of reviews that range form less than favorable to outright "no." Only once did I get a rant response in the forums - and there was one line in that review that probably set that person off that I agree wasn't necessary. I cheerfully defended the rest of my review though, and both Chris and the author of the reviewed work himself also came to my defense! I never heard another peep from the ranter, in the forum or elsewhere, and I certainly didn't have any fan clubs sic'd on me! I've also gotten plenty of "helpful" ratings on negative reviews. In other words, I think this community as whole is mature & intelligent enough to handle negative opinions without flipping out, and in fact encourages them when it's an honest assessment of the work.

    I do make a point of trying to balance any criticism I give by mentioning any features of the story/site I did like - the "thorns & roses" type stuff I was taught in several different circumstances growing up as a method for criticizing without insulting.

    In short, as long as a negative review is a relatively fair and accurate assessment of the piece, and the tone of the review is reasonable, I don't think anyone should be afraid to write a review here at WFG. In other words, don't write anything you aren't comfortable defending the content & tone of, and you should be good to go.

    Strong Heart
    A female mercenary who insists she's a man, a naive young magician, and interesting times ahead.
  5. Miladysa (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    Well said Capriox.

  6. Chris Poirier (Moderator)

    Posted 9 years ago

    To my recollection, there have only been a half-dozen incidents since we opened where people flipped out at a review they didn't like, and the vast majority (all but one?) of those tirades were directed at editors, not members. (They were also all from -- or in defence of -- "adult" writers, oddly enough.)

    In terms of member reviews, we have a strict policy against retaliatory reviews, and I will not hesitate to delete reviews and close accounts in such cases. I really don't think there is any reason to avoid reviewing things honestly, except in the case where you maybe suspect some large immaturity on the part of the author or their fans. However, my impression is that such cases are in a *very* small minority.

    Chris.

  7. Rhapsody In Prose (Inactive)

    Posted 9 years ago

    What I've experienced may not be what you've experienced; however, "Italian justice" is common in the social media world. I would expect no less here, where people put a lot of time into their work.

    When you see nothing but positive reviews flashing across your screen when you login, there's a real hesistantcy to rock the boat. (Everybody loves everything! Hmm. Ok.) Amazon lists the most helpful positive review and the most helpful critical review, which helps to vaccinate against the "mutual appreciation society" disease that also is a part of most social media sites.

    May my words be balm to the hurting, and acid to the tormentors.
    Boring serial fic
  8. Shutsumon (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    I think things get onto the front page based on their helpful votes reguardless of if they are positive or negative. At least it seems to be those recent reviews which have helpful votes.

    I gave a really negative review a while back and at 7 helpful votes it remains my most voted for review. No hissy fits, no mad fans, no trouble. The user base is here to find good fiction and appreciates honest reviews. What it doesn't appeciate are retalitory reviews of any sort.

    That's why intergal's review of Tales of Mu got 6 helpful votes (it was 2 star) http://webfictionguide.com/listings/tales-of-mu/review-by-intergal/ yet this one http://webfictionguide.com/listings/tales-of-mu/review-by-sightsoblind/ by sitesobling (also 2 star) got only 2 helpful and 3 unhelpful votes because it was blatently a disgruntled reader having a hissy fit. I imagine the helpful votes were from other disgruntled readers. And yes Intergal's negative review was on the front page for a while, as was mine a while back, and I've seen Capriox's there as well.

    The reason you see so many positive reviews is that people tend to review what they like mostly but this is by no means a mutual appreciation society.

    Becky

  9. Chris Poirier (Moderator)

    Posted 9 years ago

    Becky: Exactly -- people tend to spend their time writing reviews of stuff they enjoyed. Because we list free stuff, there is no incentive to get worked up about stuff you don't like, because you have nothing (ie. money) invested in it. People just walk away and never say anything, because it's easy.

    RIP: I find it amusing that you are complaining about the lack of negative reviews while stating you'll never write one. Why expect other people to do things you won't do yourself?

    Chris.

    P.S. Reviews get to the homepage if voted helpful by any of our "trusted" members: members who have a history of writing quality reviews, or who have in some other way contributed to the upkeep of the site.

  10. Eli James (Moderator)

    Posted 9 years ago

    @RIP: Write, just do. So long as your review is intelligent, and well reasoned, we'll defend you if you ever get harassed. Simple as that.

  11. Miladysa (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    I'm guilty of being a "happy reviewer" that's because I review stories that I've enjoyed reading.

    I don't have the time, patience or inclination to review something I'm not enjoying - I just stop reading. If I stop reading something because I didn't enjoy it, or it just wasn't my thing, doesn't mean that someone else won't love it. I don't feel the need to inform people why I didn't enjoy it.

    This probably makes me a poor reviewer in the opinion of some members who believe that you should review whether you enjoy a story or not. Tough. I'm here to read not review - if I review it's because I want to - not because anyone believes I should.

    I always give my honest opinion when I review - I'm never driven or influenced by points, bonus stories or friendships. I would be really offended if anyone thought my "happy reviews" were influenced in any way.

    Sometimes I've enjoyed a story and didn't bother to review because it had umpteen reviews already. This prompted me a while back to question whether reviews should have a shelf life. Perhaps more readers would be encouraged to rediscover older sites if they did.

    When I first discovered WFG I was hesitant to review because I had no experience. These days I'm even more hesitant because "happy" reviews attract criticism for being positive and writers seem to want some form of critique way above what I'm able to give. I'm beginning to feel that my reviews are not worthy and that's a shame because reviewing used to be part of the fun.

  12. Shutsumon (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    @Miladysa well WFG is a site for readers to discover stories not a critique site for writers, so I wouldn't worry about the last bit. And yes your reviews are positive but they contain enough information for a reader to decide if they are likely to enjoy the story or not. That's not a problem. The kind of positive reviews that annoy me are the ones that tell me nothing. The ones which say "this is brilliant! Go and read it!" As a writer such a review would give me a warm glow I guess but as a reader they aren't helpful in deciding if a story is worth my time.

    Becky

  13. zoewhitten (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    Just want to echo what Miladysa said. I don't post reviews often, but that doesn't mean I don't read others' work. If I lose interest after a chapter or two because of personal quirks, I'm not going to post a review. I just don't have enough of the story to be objective, in my opinion. Most of what I've read from others has no serious writing or grammar problems. It's just that the core concepts don't entice me to keep reading. I can see on Twitter and in the other reviews that the story does appeal to other people, so I don't really feel a need to post a negative review based off of such a short reading.

    I want more reviews, but it seems like my stories aren't fitting in with the tastes of the regular reviewers here, and I've not had any luck in convincing my readers to come over here to post reviews, or to vote at TWF. I'm not saying this is a problem with WFG, since I'm having the same problem at Muse's Success. (Actually, I'm doing worse over there. Stories get posted to the new additions and roll off the screen without a single comment or rating.) I can ask for reviews and ratings, but even if I'm getting good traffic to my fiction, I can't seem to convert it to word of mouth marketing.

    I guess my problems are pretty common: how to get reviews from the limited pool of people willing to take the time to read and review? It isn't coming from my regular peeps, and it isn't coming from posting requests in the forums, so where are those elusive vocal readers hiding, right?

  14. capriox (Member)

    Posted 9 years ago

    Speaking as a regular reviewer who hasn't reviewed you yet, Zoe... It's kinda obvious that I review in fits & spurts when I run into a couple days without too much extra stuff to do. You just haven't hit upon one of those yet ;-)

    When I do have free time, I like to go to the unreviewed stories list on the site. Unfortunately, all those stories that get posted with those incomplete editorial reviews don't make it on to that list, so I miss a lot of stories. It's a bit frustrating for me, because I *like* helping get the word out there about new stories (for better or for worse). I understand where the policy of having an editor try to write a review for every listing to go along with the member reviews came from... However, since WFG has grown to the point where all the editors have time for is just a two line blip, I think maybe WFG should drop it altogether, and instead concentrate on making the unreviewed listing a lot more prominent instead of hiding it away.* I'd be curious to find out if having a review or rating from an editor vs. a member makes a difference to readers.

    * I'm looking at you & the WFG re-design team, Chris ;-)

    Strong Heart
    A female mercenary who insists she's a man, a naive young magician, and interesting times ahead.

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