Penbound - Be a literary sensation

4 months ago | Penbound (Blocked)

Hello friends, WFG-ites, countrymen/women,

We are a small and growing community with the aim to encourage writers.

We recognize the challenges faced by writers all around the globe- to showcase your talent to the world, to get a publisher or even peers to take you seriously, to create a fan base and the financial implications of it all. Penbound aims to make the process simple for writers.

We are inviting you all to apply as Masters for the Penbound Masterclass. Penbound is a pyramid at the top of which are Masters who are, as the name suggests, masters of the art. Their books (complete/incomplete) are put up as paid reads. All others can post their material for free and have to achieve the Master level by getting good rating and reviews as well as going through an "editor pick" round.

Our beta version of the app is up on the Google Play Store and we are inviting Masters, such as yourself onboard. If this interests you, you can register at {{spam link removed}}

If this doesn't interest you or you would like to offer a suggestion, provide feedback , level an accusation or disparage us - please write to us at {{spam email removed}} or in the comments below. Your opinion is of utmost importance to us - the writer is the blood of the community - we need it flowing.

Cheers!

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  1. Tartra (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Please proofread your spam when you stand before us writing masters.

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  2. Blaise Corvin (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Penbound, do you happen to be a Nigerian prince in some legal trouble? I think you emailed me before.

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  3. Penbound (Blocked)

    Posted 4 months ago

    @Tartra, sorry to have bothered you. Our intention was not to spam.

    @Blaise No, we are in no legal trouble. We have not emailed you before. Best, Team Penbound

    Do check out the website - {{spam link removed}}

  4. revfitz (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    A scheme with a pyramid? Why, that's very disarming and can't possibly go wrong!

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  5. MaddiroseX (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Hey Penbound,

    Just to give you a little context for the response you're getting here, most of the writers in this community have been approached many many times with offers like this, via email and these forums (the more successful of us dozens of times, the most successful serialists probably hundreds). At a certain point, it's much easier to respond with snark or not at all than to ask the same questions and make the same points we've made over and over and over again. If I'm being honest, the only reason I'm typing this out is so I have something to copy and paste the next time this happens. I know this comes off incredibly harsh when, from your perspective, all you're trying to do is get your business off the ground, but hopefully you'll find it helpful for next time.

    Here are some of the red flags you've tripped, which is why most of the writers here won't take this seriously:

    • You posted this in the first place. This tells us that you haven't bothered checking the forum to see if anyone has made similar offers previously. There is quite a lot of good advice you could've gleaned from the responses to the many, many similar offers in the past.
    • You created an account the same day you posted this. You haven't reviewed any works, posted any works, you haven't so much as given a single serial a star rating. It's very clear that the only interest you have in WFG is as a pool of potential assets, and that's super offputting.
    • You lay out how we can help you, since our books will be made "paid reads" on your app and presumably the money-maker, but give no information whatsoever on how you plan to help us with "the financial implications of it all".
    • The only benefit you seem to provide is to gain us readers, followers, fans, and recognition. In some cases this can be valuable and a dialogue can be opened, but it looks like you started this program in the beginning of December 2016. Lots of us have been doing this for years, a few for decades. I don't mean to sound overly arrogant here, but I'd venture a fair few of us are more knowledgeable about gaining readers, followers, fans, and recognition than you are.
    • Kind of a small thing, but I'm very distrustful of a community which doesn't allow anyone to read or interact with said community without getting the app/registering first. It makes it feel like the community has something to hide.

    Again, I get that this seems like a rather disproportionate response to a pitch, but I'm hoping the disproportionate response will help you in the long run. One of the most important parts of building a brand is doing your research, and that counts double when trying to obtain your working assets.

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  6. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Yet another one of these? Oh dear.

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  7. Wildbow (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Maddi said it pretty darn well - I used to be the one to jump in and try to convey why this sort of thing doesn't work, but I've been getting 50+ of these offers at a time and I'm a little burned out on it. It comes in waves of 10-25 every April or December when the business/entrepreneur graduates finish their studies and jump onto their pet projects, look at infographics to see that online writing is an untapped well of potential, and make their pitch.

    At the end of the day, this sort of thing doesn't work because it needs to hit a critical mass before it becomes a success - at least for the writer. The app/aggregate site/startup (hereafter referred to as the startup) offers audience and exposure in exchange for the work, the financial side of things often comes across as either 'author gets nothing' or 'startup won't be able to pay the bills for three months if it tries to do everything it promises'. I've seen so many of these ideas and there's so many similar ideas, and the startup never has anything that helps it stand out from the others. A cute logo or graphic, a catchy name, spam the various writing sites, offer the money and exposure all authors want. Have very little substance behind that.

    The reality is that the startup needs people to draw people in, and I don't think I've seen an offer from one startup that had hit that critical mass.

    Jumping on board would be hitching oneself to a ship that's slated to sink, if not pre-emptively sinking.

  8. Billy Higgins Peery (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Lol, u guys remember nunkstop?

    Anyway, here's a thread I hope you find useful, Penbound: http://forums.webfictionguide.com/topic/web-serial-hosts

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  9. Jim Zoetewey (Moderator)

    Posted 4 months ago

    I just deleted the duplicate message. We don't need two discussions about this.

  10. unice5656 (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    What all these start-ups don't seem to understand is that it's much, much more important to have a large readership than to attract writers. If you have a readership, the writers will follow.

  11. Dary (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    I imagine they hope the writers will bring in the audience...

  12. unice5656 (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    That's the problem. If the writers are providing both the supply and the demand, exactly what is the start-up providing? Presumably, the writers already have an interface that gained them their readers.

  13. Blaise Corvin (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    I figure they just don't understand how this culture works...like, at all. "Look at all these little plebs with their little stories. I can make money off of this with my shiny new MBA, right?"

    *Eyeroll*

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  14. Jim Zoetewey (Moderator)

    Posted 4 months ago

    I'm often amazed at how little time people apparently spend doing research on what's worked so far and what hasn't.

    For example, in the realm of webcomics, Joe Manley attempted a paywall. Basically, the idea was that the most recent few strips were available, but the entire archive was not. It was, of course, the "good" web comics that were sequestered that way.

    The result for the creators was yes, some money because people had to pay to see the archives. Unfortunately, the archives are what gets people into the story. Thus, for many, the result was that once they got into Modern Tales, they got new fans more slowly than before. Similarly, once they got out, they got fans more quickly, ultimately earning more money.

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