Royal Road: to accept or not to accept


  1. Dary (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    But WFG isn't representative of "web-fiction as it stands", because it already excludes stories exclusive to certain sites (and those intended as erotica, too).

  2. unice5656 (Moderator)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Yeah, it makes no sense to exclude sites like Wattpad and FictionPress and then include RRL.

  3. Billy Higgins Peery (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Lemme change my statement then: "good web fiction as it stands." I do think RRL serials have seen enough success to deserve indexing. They're at the center of a very popular serial trend right now. You really can't say that about FictionPress. Wattpad is trickier, since their serials have seen success. I'll give you Wattpad, but you'll have a hard time convincing most people that we're missing out on much by not accepting FictionPress serials.

    (The erotica thing is a good point too, though I also think you can make a good argument either way.)

    EDIT: Thinking about it, it might be more productive to raise the number of chapters a web serial needs to have from 3 to like 10 or 15. That reduces the load and doesn't discriminate against sites. Would also eliminate some of the noise of short, abandoned serials we often see in new listings.

    "Any number of hitlers, are still not my problem." -Tempest
  4. unice5656 (Moderator)

    Posted 2 years ago

    I mean, #3 on TWF right now is from FictionPress... I agree that fictions there generally don't see as major success as on RRL, but that's because RRL has a fairly niche audience.

    Totally agree to upping the minimum requirements. It should take the potential author longer to write their stuff than it takes you to approve it on this site.

  5. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Hmmm... if 10-15 chapters was the minimum, then my new serial would only have like 10 updates left after getting listed on WFG. :( I'd kind of like to benefit from growth in readership a little longer than that.

    Note: the new serial isn't happening before 2018 (I'm only up to 15K words at this point), but still. It's total word count is going to be something like 80-100K, or 20ish updates.

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world.
  6. Dary (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    The problem with judging things by their number of chapters is that one series might have 5,000 word updates, and another 500.

  7. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    @Dary good point. How about something like a 20K word requirement instead?

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world.
  8. Billy Higgins Peery (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Yeah, I'm just spitballing here, but WFG already does the word count thing, so I assume a similarly raised word count requirement would be used as a potential substitue if the post requirement was raised.

    "Any number of hitlers, are still not my problem." -Tempest
  9. TanaNari (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    I'd be more inclined to support the word count rule.

    Though, perhaps it'd also help to give preferential treatment to those who've already got a finished story of at least novel length on the site? I'm not sure how many of us have completed serials on here and are going in for round two, but I'm approaching the point where I will. Chrysalis. Wildbow's on his third, now.

    Then again, I'll be putting my next series on RRL as well as here, so I'll have to recuse myself from the vote on that subject.

    Author of Price.
  10. mooderino (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    If Fictionpress is one of the sites not represented here, how is Mother of Learning on the TWF chart?

  11. Shaeor (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    I was against it in the very first place. Per the thing about not taking fiction from bulk sites, iirc. Vote nay.

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  12. revfitz (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Too many submissions and no time to parse them does no one any good. I say it's time to reject them. With that said, I realize that some RR folks have been a positive influence here (like unice5656), but if you are overwhelmed, and if new people are waiting a very long time to be added, I say cut the cord. Just keep the ones that have already been listed.

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  13. DrewHayes (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    Since there is an established precedent saying that systems with their own directory aren't allowed on WFG (although I know some folks have pointed out a few exceptions made it through) I think it's both consistent and fair to enforce the same existing policy on RRL. On top of that, since this is Chris's project that he has to run, however WFG scales over time has to be manageable for him, and it sounds like the idea of adding RRL wouldn't be. Maybe tossing in an "Other Directories" link so people can scan RRL and Fictionpress's systems would lessen the refusal, but at the end of the day we'll be behind you on whatever choices you need to make for the sake of the site and yourself, Chris.

    Super Powereds & Corpies
  14. Alexander.Hollins (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    There is already a listing in "community links". I for one would be fond of the idea of maybe adding something more direct to the menu bar, after info and submission, "Webfiction links" or something.

  15. Naeddyr (Member)

    Posted 2 years ago

    As a normal user of this site, I had NO IDEA you didn't accept submissions or reviews from bigger sites as it is. It seems counterproductive and weird.

    If you're going to do that kind of thing, please make it more obvious to people reading your site. I thought I would be able to use as an all-purpose webfiction aggregate site because I don't want to try to figure out what is actually good on RRL and what is just... popular there.

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