Sell Me, Sell You

12 years ago | joel wyatt (Member)

So -- I think pretty much everyone on the WFG would like to rack up more reviews (positive, preferably - but sometimes it's just nice to know somebody's reading at all, isn't it?), but often times, one not-so-good review, or not having multiple reviews, can keep readers from discovering good work.

What I'm proposing with this thread is a "pitch-meeting" of sorts, like the opening scene of Altman's "The Player". Tell me (and anyone else who stumbles across this thread) about your work, what it's about, what you're trying to accomplish with it, the genre, your influences, etc. Basically, say all those things you imagine telling an interviewer after your book winds up on the NYT bestseller list.

Maybe somebody, after seeing what YOU have to say about your work, will give it a second look after that initial bad review. Maybe they'll even be moved to add a review of their own, or link to you from their site, or, hell, option your work for a movie : )

Somebody else start... I'll follow suit, if anyone bites...

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  1. Frances Gonzalez (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    I haven't gotten a particularly awful review yet (toots horn) but I could use more reviews in general. Plus, this synopsis-writing thing sounds like excellent practice.

    The Lighthouse Chronicles is a planned trilogy in the first book stage. It is a supernatural coming-of-age story set in Boston. We follow an ordinary girl named Maxine who has been given a mission by a voice she's familiar with since childhood to find Artifacts that will supposedly deter the end of the world. At heart it is a story about a girl coming to grips with her past, and a story that points out how an ordinary person can hold her own in extraordinary circumstances. It has healthy doses of comedy and young romance. Each chapter is no more than three pages in length.

  2. joel wyatt (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    Hey, thanks for playing!

    With your synopsis, you didn't REALLY have me (and this is JUST me) until you said "healthy doses of comedy".

    (Not that I think every piece of online fiction has to be a comedy, by any means, but with all the mages and magicks and young vampire love listed on the WFG, I personally look forward to something w/ a sense of humor!)

    I've got a new post of my own, forthcoming, but after that, I look forward to reading The Lighthouse Chronicles!

    Soo - for "Flyover City"; the synopsis on my listing I think works as a "tease", but it may be too vague for some readers...

    FC is a COMEDY along the lines of Nick Hornby (High Fidelity / About a Boy), but my goal is to make the "superhero stuff" work just as well. Although the story is about a "regular guy living in a super powered world", the superhero elements are rapidly becoming more integral. There are some public domain characters from the golden age of comics peppered throughout the story, along with other heroes of my own creation.

    Part of the reason I'm in "shilling for readers" mode now is that enough of the serial is done (1/3rd) that my potential readers can check out a couple of different entries, and get a taste of ALL the different elements in the story(urban romantic comedy, superhero adventure, pop-culture satire, etc.)

    I hope we can get some more reader/writers in here, to create some buzz for each other's work!

  3. Reyben (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    Joel_Wyatt (Wyatt's a cool name... I think I'll call a character that now), my favourite thing about that post, other than the phrase 'shilling for readers,' was the fact that you capitalised COMEDY. I'm not sure what a Nick Hornby is, but superhero comedies are notoriously difficult to get right- however, your blurb has two elements I like (superhero adventure, pop-satire) and one I can get behind if done well(urban romcom), so I'll check it out and see what the resulting soup is like.

    Now [flexes fingers] onto my buzz.

    Well, "Knightfall," was my current project- I've just put the last issue up. There's a blurb somewhere on the website, but roughly the gist of it is this:

    New Year's Eve. Knights in shining armour start to appear from nowhere, causing trouble. Nobody knows why- not even them.
    All over the world, weird things start happening. Very weird. There are shapes in the sky and malfunctioning computers. The Internet seems to be developing a mind of its own... and that's just the start.
    Angels will be here, bringing darkness. Strangers from distant corners of the worlds will find their lives interrupted by coming catastrophe. They will have to work together.
    Because the Rapture is coming...

    Notably, I decided to make "Knightfall," a) only four issues long and b) in a script-prose hybrid which I tend to go on and on about because I still haven't worked out exactly what a script-prose hybrid IS or why I chose to use it. But anyway, both of these decisions were largely arbitrary. Just wanted to see how writing something in a different format worked out.

    There are pictures, too. Just a couple, just for gloss.

    I don't know what you'd call the genre. Modern-Science-fiction/Urban-Supernatural/Features-Knights-Templar-Plus-Sort-Of-But-Not-Spaceships...

    Romantic Comedy. I'm going to go with romantic comedy. Because even though there isn't much comedy, there are dashes of romance. In between the, you know, many many many deaths.

  4. joel wyatt (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    Reyben - that sounds cool. I love hybrid genre stuff like that (obvious, I guess, if you read my site) I really need to hold up my end of the responsibility here, and start reading / reviewing more of my fellow writers' work.

    "superhero comedies are notoriously difficult to get right" Oh, HELL yes. Everytime I say "superhero comedy" I worry people get visions of "My Super Ex-Girlfriend" or whatever!

    At long last, I've finally gotten my second review; even though it's only 3.5 stars, I'm THRILLED. Jim Zoetewey responded to everything I want the reader to respond to, and even his criticism is entirely constructive and fair.

    (though, when the story's finished, I think readers will see that the main character's "arc" is intended more Holden Caulfield-esque than traditional "Hero's Journey". But that's just a risk you take when writing something 'real time')

  5. Reyben (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    Regarding three point five and the star system, I've never seen the stars as a hugely helpful indicator anyway- something for the uber-casual browser, but really too imprecise to be terribly indicative of the writing itself. The main review is really much more important.

    "My Super-Ex Girlfriend..." Please, don't remind me. I could have used those two hours of my life to- well, I probably would've wasted them but, damn it, I would've wasted them on my terms.

  6. Frances Gonzalez (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    @reyben -- "Modern-Science-fiction/Urban-Supernatural/Features-Knights-Templar-Plus-Sort-Of-But-Not-Spaceships..." That line, sir, is your entire synopsis.

    @joel wyatt -- "I think, even, if I ever die, and they stick me in a cemetery, and I have a tombstone and all, it'll say 'Holden Caulfield' on it, and then what year I was born and what year I died, and then right under that it'll say 'Fuck you.' I'm positive, in fact."

    Will be checking out both your stories! :)

  7. nomesque (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    Wellll, lemme see... OK, I've come up with something, but it was done on an empty stomach and only a little coffee, so it might just suck bananas:

    Typically, when a writer can't make up her mind, crappiness ensues. When I can't make up my mind, I simply write multiple stories at once.

    Nomesque Fiction contains a lot of serial short stories, and they're all on the go. Science fiction? Got it. Cyberpunk? Got it. Gritty real-life kinda drama? Got it. Humour? Got too bloody much of it. When someone's weeping into their beer, you'll probably laugh your head off. My fiction's been described as 'feminist', but don't be scared, it just means that the women just don't hang around weeping for their knight, and the men aren't one-dimensional heroes/villains/losers.

    Fairies. Drug-dealers. Good little christian boys. Male prostitutes. Ogres. Spaceships. Heath Ledger. What more could you want?

  8. Reyben (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    "Fairies. Drug-dealers. Good little christian boys. Male prostitutes. Ogres. Spaceships. Heath Ledger. What more could you want?"

    She makes a compelling argument. Possibly even more compelling to certain very specific crowds...

  9. nomesque (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    She makes a compelling argument. Possibly even more compelling to certain very specific crowds...


    Hey, they're not ALL in one story... :-)

  10. Avery Tingle (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    Lighthouse Chronicles sounds REALLY interesting (haven't forgotten my promise). I'm rather unique with my type of comedy, so I tend to stay away from most stories rooted in it. I'll try anything once, though. I've also started to get into Nomesque Fiction and I like the format (set of short-stories)

    Universal Warrior: Uprising tells the story of four angels who come to prominence during the final, violent days of the war between Heaven and Hell. With Paradise reduced to a wasteland, the forces of Hell advancing, and human worshippers being persecuted, Yang, the ruler of Heaven, unleashes one final gambit in a bid to end the conflict.

    The story is a fictional telling of the early days of Michael, often referred to as the greatest of Archangels. This is the story of how he came to be, from angry young boy to capable warrior, and eventually, great leader.

    Uprising is a story about family, especially those not bound by blood. It's a story about maturity, acceptance, sacrifice, and paints a chilling portrait of what may await in the afterlife, as well as the machinations of what we call 'miracles'.

    Okay, I think that's long-winded enough...

  11. Dary (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    "Fairies. Drug-dealers. Good little christian boys. Male prostitutes. Ogres. Spaceships. Heath Ledger. What more could you want?"

    Hey, they're not ALL in one story... :-)

    Oddly enough, I will have them all in one story... Well, except for Heath Ledger.

    I'm new to all this, so I've not had any of these review shenanigans. I don't know if that makes me INVALID or not, but NEVER MIND!

    Faeries in High School.


    "Ethereal Elemental Spirits of a World-Protecting Nature in Post-Post-Apocalyptic Educational Institute for Human Teenagers" because most people think of Tinkerbell when you mention faeries these days...

    Of course, you mention anything magical alongside "high school", and people tend to think Harry Potter. The kids in Harry Potter were quaint and innocent. I'm attempting to correct that. My teenagers swear, drink, abuse drugs, shag, self-harm, abuse authority, and generally teenagers. Or at least some of them do. Others are more entertained by dressing up as pirates and taunting the local would-be playboys.

    And it's got faeries in it to!

  12. acetachyon (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    This sounds fun. I'll throw my hat into the ring.


    It's 2042 in the California Free State metroplex of Bay City. Kat and Mouse are a pair of mercenaries trying to eke out a living. They have the skill. They have the will.

    And they have the bad habit of getting in over their heads.

    Which usually means run-ins with rival ronin, punkergangs, the mob, the Yakuza, cyborg assassins, and whatever else Bay City decides to throw at them.

    But they always get the job done.

    Their way.

    Heaven help Bay City.

    KAT AND MOUSE, GUNS FOR HIRE When the going gets tough, the tough shoot back
  13. NiSp (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    your blurb got me to do something i haven't done in what feels like months... got me reading! lol. good job, ace :)

  14. Alex L. (Member)

    Posted 12 years ago

    Well why not I'll give it a crack aswell, I only have one review, it is a five star review </smugness>, but I'd love more.

    'Mask of the snake', The tale of two drunken louts on the run from Neo Nazis, interweeved with the story of a young WW2 soldier sent to a mysterious island with a highly trained squad of marines. Despite the obvious looks of it, it wasn't inspired by 'lost' or 'indiana jones'. But the web video series 'Red vs Blue'. I loved how that series combined drama and absurdist comedy so well, one moment was hilarious the next exciting and dramatic. So I thought I'd try it for myself, in written form of course.

    At its heart 'Mask of the Snake' is about young men that get thrown in the deep end, and forced to grow up pretty quickly. And the friendships they make with those around them. Mike and Dave on the run and dealing with Neo Nazis, angry Dutch Drug smugglers, fat prostitutes and much more. While there is also Private Dunn, Mikes grandfather trying to survive Japanese and German troops, the jungle and just being a soldier, not to mention he keeps seeing is childhood priest all around his mysterious island. Is he going insane?

    Posted every saturday as apart of my blog, 'Mask of the Snake' starts here:

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