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  1. ClearMadness (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    I'm going to have to challenge all this negativity when it comes to making money from serials. I think it's quite possible, if very difficult.

    There's a reason a whole bunch of serial websites like Wattpad, RR, and others have popped up recently. It's because various people and organizations can see the profit in it. I think the trend is definitely that serials are going to become more mainstream. In the internet age with piracy, overwhelming content, and the desire for instant gratification serials just make sense.

    Web serials are already huge business in Asia. A lot of people make a lot of money with serials there. This hasn't really happened in the West yet, but there's no reason it shouldn't happen in time. The light novel fan base is leading the way here.

    Of course just listing yourself on Web Fiction Guide isn't nearly enough. You would have to approach your serial as if it was a business in order to make money. You would need a solid plan and knowledge of stuff like internet marketing and social media. Conversion of visits into donations would be key, and Patreon is great for this if it's optimized correctly.

    I realize I'm kind of the only one here with this opinion, but it's what I believe.

    Author of The Iron Teeth, a online dark fantasy story.
  2. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    It could maybe happen someday, but the overwhelming majority of web serialist experiences shows that we're not there yet. Most people don't make money on Wattpad, either - they just want to share their stories with the world, and having an audience there can definitely provide a starting boost for an ebook launch.

    You can't really 'market' web fiction, either. It's been tried time and time again without good results. It's all about word of mouth here. A dedicated fan adding you to TVtropes pages and starting forum discussions about your story will boost your stats more than Facebook ever could. Self promotion is frowned upon and generally ignored, but fan opinions do get attention.

    Having lots of readers doesn't necessarily translate into donations, either. A Grey World, for instance, was MASSIVELY popular at its peak, but earned hardly any donations. I'd love to see a study on web fiction reader demographics (is that the right word?) sometime... I suspect most are either writers themselves or in the high school / college age range. If they have money, they're not going to spend it on something that's free by default. But I'm just guesstimating, here. If anyone has actual numbers, please share!

    Maybe in a year or two you'll agree with the rest of us. :)

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world.
  3. Fiona Gregory (Moderator)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Anyone have any info about how the Asian web serials make money? Is it by donation, subscription, or? What is different over there?

  4. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Fiona, check this out:,228198.0.html

    The thread contains links and discussion regarding the Chinese web fiction market. It also mentions Writeon, a platform similar to Wattpad that Amazon is launching.

    Writeon link:

    It seems that Chinese censorship prohibits self-publishing, but web fiction is ok.

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world.
  5. Billy Higgins Peery (Member)

    Posted 4 years ago

    Funny to see Writeon mentioned. I just got an email from Amazon about them yesterday, and almost posted a thread being like, "What's up with this weird thing?"

    Is Amazon still launching Writeon, though? The stuff on the front page didn't seem to have readers, but Amazon was talking like this started up last year. Are they just scaling the thing up slowly? I understand a year is like no time at all for some websites, but if Amazon was serious about Writeon, I'd expect them to put a little more force into promoting it. Kinda like what they did with Kindle Unlimited.

    Guess I'm used to seeing Amazon move faster than this, is all. (I think it was Hugh Howey who said that Amazon was a huge corporation that moved like a small one? Might've been Warren Ellis, though. Given how much Ellis I read, there's a good chance it was Ellis.)

    "Any number of hitlers, are still not my problem." -Tempest


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