Taking Down Part of a Serial

3 years ago | DrewHayes (Member)

Although I've really wanted to avoid doing this, I may need to put the first year of Super Powereds into Kindle Unlimited on Amazon fairly soon for promotional reasons. To do that, however, I'll have to take it off my site, as that violates Amazon's exclusivity agreement. I'm really on the fence over this one, as from a business side this is an increasingly necessary step, but I also dislike the prospect of taking a free resource away from readers.

Has anyone removed part (or all) of a serial before? If so, how did your readers react to the absence?

Super Powereds & Corpies
http://www.DrewHayesNovels.com/

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  1. ubersoft (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    You should drop Billy Higgins a line -- he took down Sprawl a while back.

    I suspect "you'll get complaints" is a relatively safe observation to make. :D

    Curveball (Updating)
    A Rake by Starlight (Updating)
  2. Lee Carlon (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    I wonder if it's possible to publish a different version through through Kindle Unlimited, allowing you to keep the current version on your site, and publish a new version on Kindle.

    I don't have any experience with this but it might be worth looking into.

  3. ChrysKelly (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    I hope so. I'm wanting to set my ebook in an Earth 2 reality. Then again, I might not go KU so it might not matter.

    If you find out, I'd love to know.

  4. Lee Carlon (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    I have several books on Kindle, but for reasons I don't understand, Barnes and Nobel have always sold more of my books than Amazon so I'd be wary of anything that dictates exclusivity.

  5. FrustratedEgo (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    It depends on the book from what I can tell.

    That being said the KDP Select terms state anything 'substantially similar' in the phrasing, with the option of charge or denying payouts if violations are found. I chose not to push this boundary, and while there are a few who haven't had issues - Drew is high enough profile that he might be caught easier then others...

  6. Sharkerbob (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Yeah, this is why I opted not to try publishing at certain places. Either removing content or substantially changing the work so it doesn't resemble the original. While I don't have a serial, so it's less likely to negatively impact me, there's some stuff that's been free online since the beginning that I don't want to have to remove just because of a clause.

    While it's not the "main stream" site, have you considered publishing through Smashwords? More lenient, easy to use, and they also shotgun your work out to over a dozen other major ebook sites. I've got stuff on the Apple store, Kobo, Barnes & Noble, and other places (even foreign sites), just from publishing at Smash. That won't necessarily increase your sales, but it's something.

    However, I know Kindle Unlimited is a pretty hot service right now, and unfortunately, Smash doesn't have anything like that. But still, if you really want to sell your stuff, it's a pretty flexible site to try.

  7. ChrysKelly (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Seconded, Smashwords is awesome and easy to use. I like Smashwords :)

  8. DrewHayes (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Thanks for input so far everyone. Unfortunately, going multi-platform won't be a viable fix to the issue. For better or worse, Amazon fundamentally Is the e-book market right now, and most authors (or at least the ones I compare data with) see more from the gains of KU than they do from being in multiple markets. Plus, for many of the bigger promotional sights (Bookbub and the like) with high criteria, having a big presence on Amazon makes getting in the door more viable.

    However, since KU enrollment is only 3 months minimum, it occurred to me that I could take SP Year 1 down for only that run of time. I wanted to stop in and see if anyone had dabbled in temporary removal of a serial, and how that went over if so.

    Super Powereds & Corpies
    http://www.DrewHayesNovels.com/
  9. Ephemerality (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Over on RoyalRoadl I know da3strikes recently took down most of Awaken Online because he enrolled in Kindle Unlimited. It's sold phenomenally well as far as I can tell, and there's been little to no backlash, but he really only had the first book up.

  10. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    Hey Drew,

    What promotions have you done? Are you submitting a book to bookbub every month - or is it every two weeks, don't remember their required wait time before another submission for a different book? With the amount of great reviews you have, it shouldn't be too hard to get accepted after a few tries. Books that are wide are more likely to get accepted by Bookbub, so it might be worth considering first before you go KU - if that's what you end up doing.

    There's also the alternatives - smaller promo sites that can be stacked. Promos have been great for me even when I only had one book out, and I can't wait to do more of them in early September with 2 books out. With the amount of publications you have, any new fan with sell-through to other books would make you a lot of money.

    Let me know if you want some recommendations for smaller promo sites I've used. :)

    Something else - KU readers like to binge through a whole series. If they see that only the first book is in KU, they might not bite as much.

    Also, how about enrolling a standalone book or a series that you haven't posted online? Like... Corpies. Or the Fred books. Corpies is directly linked to Super Powereds, so you'd most likely get a lot of sell-through, especially if you link to SP at the end of the book.

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world. http://anathemaserial.wordpress.com/
  11. Shutsumon (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    I think your main problem will be losing new web readers by going this route. If people arrive at your site via WFG or TWF they won't be able to start the story. So the question is does that matter to you?

    If you have to go with KU I'd suggest doing what Chrysalis suggests and going with Corpies with a link to Superpowereds in the back matter.

  12. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    I'm a dummy, I just realized that Corpies is online even though it's not listed on WFG. Duh. Still, since it's a standalone novel, your readers won't mind as much if you take it offline.

    Corpies has the added advantage of adult protagonists, which means a larger audience. Some people won't touch YA out of principle, no matter how good it is.

    Also, make sure to give whichever book you put into a KU (if you decide to do it) a nice big starting boost with promos. KU readers select their next read based on poplists, and I think (author experiences suggest) the first month of a book being added to KU gives it some extra Amazon algo love.

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world. http://anathemaserial.wordpress.com/
  13. ubersoft (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    I'm not really happy about losing Super Powereds from the webfiction world, BUT... if Drew is trying to boost exposure to the series, then Super Powereds Year One is the best way to go.

    Corpies works better in context after you've read SP Year 3. Pushing it first as a freebie breaks the chain of the overall story.

    I'm not sure SP really qualifies as YA -- they're all in college, not high school -- but I'm not really an expert on that. It could be YA includes college age these days.

    The big problem is that taking out Year One breaks the whole series online. Tactically I think it's the right call in terms of getting the most out of KDP but it unravels everything online. If someone started reading with Year Two they'd miss a lot of stuff.

    Honestly, I'd be more tempted to take the "in for a penny, in for a pound" approach and take the whole series offline for a while and put it in KDP, but you're still writing Year 4 and probably your readers would track you down and violence would ensue. :)

    Curveball (Updating)
    A Rake by Starlight (Updating)
  14. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 3 years ago

    The tone of SP year one is very YA, I've found. There's more 'teenage drama' or 'young people drama' going on than superpowered fights. Also, parties. And slow-developing romance. And parties.

    Corpies has a much more 'serious' tone with 'adult' issues, for lack of better words. My English sucks. :P

    I might be biased because I loved Corpies, so feel free to ignore me. :)

    Anathema, a web serial about the effect superpowers would have on our world. http://anathemaserial.wordpress.com/

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