Tartra has me thinking independence

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  1. revfitz (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    @Tartra
    That is something I had not considered! Being able to develop a character through multiple story arcs instead of defining them by just one is very appealing.

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  2. Tartra (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    @Revfitz - And don't feel bad for asking! You weren't being rude and we were all n00bs once, and I promise you that as experienced as some people are around here, nobody feels for a second that they have it 'finally figured out'. By the time you're asking the question anyway, ten other lurkers were thinking the wondering the same thing.

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  3. Alexander.Hollins (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Require Cookie has done a complete overhaul and rewrite twice. My two previous serials are both headed for complete rewrites as well.

  4. Dary (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Just throwing this in here: I believe the average figure for reader retention between books in a series is around 80%.

    That's 80% of the people who finished the previous book, obviously. Around half the people who start a book never actually finish it. So, if you sell a thousand copies of Book One, you can expect to sell 400 copies of Book Two and (theoretically) 160 copies of Book Three...

  5. mathtans (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    @unice5656: Hadn't realized it was that common. Thanks for the thoughts.

    @Tartra: I don't think anything you'd have to say would be an energy waste. In fact, inserting a recap is more or less what I'd intended on doing, because when I first started into "Book 5", it was with the assumption that no one had read the rest. Then I thought, why not put the early parts out there, to see if people might like the idea? (Which went less than stellar.) So your suggestion is a good sign. (I haven't actually seen "Evil Dead", but I know the gist.)

    @revfitz: That kind of blows me away... I'm used to being impressed by others wrapping up long running stories here, not being one of them. o.O As to Carrie, that's hilarious because I was only ever in Texas once, and Julie's the American. (I was going for "has mother issues".)

    @Dary: Good to know... means I should probably cycle into a new series. :)

    @AlexH: Thanks. What prompted the desire to tackle that, if I might ask?

    As to the benefit of continuing in a sequel versus doing something separate, there's *not having to do new World Building*. Honestly, that's a part of the process I've never liked. Part of my dislike stems from being more invested in characters than their world. I much prefer to decide as I'm writing "that won't be possible", "that was a historical event", creating the Bible as I go, versus laying it all out in advance. Doing something else entirely means I'd have to return to a blank slate, and just, eeeuhhhgh. So much more work. :P I'd prefer to write something in a setting with pre-defined rules that I won't want to change later. What Tartra says about familiarity connects to that.

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  6. Alexander.Hollins (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    With RC, growth of author chops, and the later books started moving in directions away from her earlier writing, so she wanted to tighten up plot.

    for mine, its been 6 years since I stopped, and i dont even have all the pieces anymore. and the main chracters... sucked.

  7. unice5656 (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    @Fiona: Exactly. Though I wouldn't really blame anyone for continuing to milk that cash cow.

    @mathtans: *reads too many fantasy romances* Yeah, the only way that you can have the complex world-building of fantasy plus the in-depth character interactions of romance in the same book is to keep the same setting and not have to do all of that set-up for each new story. You have to swap out the main characters because happily united couples are boring :P. What's really implausible is how the cast of characters tends to be powerful, immortal-type creatures who have spent centuries alone, but suddenly all fall in love within a few years of each other, but suspension of disbelief and all that.

    @Rev: Several different things. Ending a book must be done because after a thousand pages or so, it gets too heavy and people don't expect to have to deal with more than that as a single story (really, most people don't want to deal with more than 300 pages). Ending a volume of a webfiction and starting the next volume is simply a place where the story arc ends and it's a convenient place to stop, edit, and sell it as a separate book on Amazon. Ending a webfiction and starting its sequel means that you've told a story in that world, but you're not ready to let some of that world or some of those characters stay unexplored and undeveloped. It implies a shift in focus that some readers might not like.
    I personally think of webserials as a different-but-related format from books, much like TV shows vs movies. TV shows have seasons (like volumes) and spin-off series (like sequels), while movies have to be approximately 90 minutes long and tell one main, coherent story.

    I totally love conjuring up new worlds and setting it all up, but I wouldn't leave a story universe until it felt "done". The rest of the worlds floating around in my imagination will just have to wait in my ideas folder.

  8. revfitz (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    @unice5656
    Indeed, I have seen most authors follow that model to some degree. I like the comparisons you have made.

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  9. TanaNari (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    @Dary... fits with what I'm experiencing...

    @Tartra - Tone stays relatively similar. Same settings, same rules, and I go out of my way to spread the setting's nature so no single book reveals everything. And I don't know how much more aware I can make them considering everything's on the same website.

    I keep people updated- usually telling them two to three weeks in advance. I even have open voting so they can decide which project I'm going into next. Not because I'm terribly controlled by others' opinions, but because I want to write all the things, and it's just a matter of order.

    Author of Price.
  10. Tartra (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    @TanaNari - Hate to say it, mostly 'cause I'm sure you already know, but it sounds like it's the standard problem of needing to reach more readers. Writing reviews the way you have been should help, but have you looked into any direct cross-promotion of other people's work?

    The Other Kind of Roommate — Like Fight Club meets X-Men meets The Matrix meets Superbad.
  11. mathtans (Member)

    Posted 4 months ago

    Just thought I'd post a few follow-up remarks, two weeks later, for anyone curious.
    -I've gone back through the first 46 posts, retooling some of the dialogue. Julie gets a free pass, because her whole thing is that she's trying to be a CEO before she turns 18. Frank gets a free pass, because he's supposed to be socially awkward and I figure using overcomplicated language is part of that. Their foils, Corry and Luci also got latitude (plus this started taking way longer than I thought). Everyone else, particularly Clarke and Laurie, got smacked with a thesaurus. Does that fix things? Hell no (this was largely dialogue, not narration) but in theory, it's less worse.
    -In the same set, all "mama" was scrubbed. If "mother issues" comes across as "being from Texas", that needs tweaking.
    -Book 5 won't be Book 5. It'll be "Time Untied", Book 1. Don't expect it before 2018. Assuming I decide it's a worthy thing.

    As I continue to reformat past 46 for RRL over the summer, I may continue to make tweaks, but I think come May 30th, the thing's being put to bed. Thanks to all for the information! Keep being awesome out there.

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