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  1. Kraken Attacken (Member)

    Posted 3 months ago

    I see the points that both Rhodeworks and and Chrysalis are making, but I do agree more with Chrysalis' last post. I can see several places in Worms story that would make for excellent book ends (I'd mention a few, but I wouldn't want to spoil any bits for people who would still like to read the story).

    On the other hand, there is something I'd like to know, and I might even start up a separate thread with further details so this doesn't run too much further off topic.

    @Chrysalis - Regarding your post (marked #11 on this thread), I'm wondering if the occurrence of spinning ones wheels while writing and not knowing how to drive the plot forward is common. Not trying to bash anyone here, but personally, I didn't start writing until I had come up with all of the essential elements and events in my story and how they would connect, as well as an understanding of what the ending would entail.

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  2. Chrysalis (Member)

    Posted 3 months ago

    @Kraken Attacken I believe those moments of uncertainty - or plain old writer's block - happen to any web serialist who keeps updating on schedule for more than say, half a year. Because you can't plot everything. Sooner or later, you'll hit some kind of road block and unless you edit everything before you start posting, readers will notice.

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  3. Rhodeworks (Member)

    Posted 3 months ago

    I've not run into full writer's block (yet) but I've definitely had points where my original outline is suddenly useless and I've had to take some time to reconnect the dots. No plan survives contact with the enemy, and no outline survives contact with the actual writing process. When NAH is all finished up, I'll probably share just how things changed and why. I think that's one of the more important things you can do when discussing/creating art, that it's an iterative process as opposed to the things people like to say where 'it just came out how I envisioned it originally'.

  4. Jim Zoetewey (Moderator)

    Posted 3 months ago

    I haven’t had writer’s block, but I have had periods where it wasn’t clear to me how to move into the next part of the story. Many of those could have been writer’s block if I’d tried to come up with the best possible idea before I started writing or if I evaluated my idea (is this good enough?) while I was writing it. I know this because on the rare occasion where I’ve made the mistake of asking, “Is this good enough,” the answer invariably turns out to be, “no,” and it takes me a couple hours to push past it.

    What works better for me is to ignore the question of quality and simply ask what the main character would do next and go forward from there. I’ve had sections of books where I’ve had to do that a lot. Presently, I’m not up to editing those sections for publication. It’ll be interesting to find out if they move the story forward at a normal rate or if they slow things down.

  5. TanaNari (Member)

    Posted 3 months ago

    Yeah, I generally agree that a lot of web publishing is "words for the sake of words"... and it's not just writing that's guilty of this particular sin. Webcomics are, if anything, even worse.

    I try to fight that particular impulse, and thus far I've been succeeding in keeping my books relatively small. 70-90k words has been enough to do every last one of my novels, all of which have the main plot as well as one major transformative subplot, then with juuust enough padding to give at least a handful of chapters from the perspective of important side characters. Either to provide valuable exposition the main character(s) cannot, or to show the motives of the antagonist, or so forth.

    I don't consider my writing all that tight; shaving 10-20k off any given novel shouldn't be hard. But compared to a lot of web writers, I may as well be Hemingway writing the six word novel.

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  6. Rhodeworks (Member)

    Posted 3 months ago

    I think the average of the last dozen or so books I've read has been about 150k words each. The smallest being 80k and the largest being about 180k, I think. It's pretty interesting, really. I know I've spoken to avid serial readers who think quantity is the most important thing. I think there's a lot of web serial reader psychology that you could talk about -- and, again, doesn't really track 1:1 to traditional fiction.

  7. Dary (Member)

    Posted 3 months ago

    In my experience, at least, the difference between online and offline writing groups is both pronounced and fascinating. Offline, people want to share and critique work, but online they just want to talk about own their word counts/achievements, and critique inevitability leads to drama. Hell, I've seen people confused because they've joined an offline group and didn't understand why people there were talking about each others work and not writing in silence...

  8. ForestRage (Member)

    Posted 3 months ago

    Simple poll but I once asked the question about the difference between online reading and holding a good book. Those responses varied from age to all sorts of opinions. I like a good book on a relaxing day. But when I am online it is much easier to pop up a web novel.

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