Anybody here on Facebook?

If you or your project is on Facebook, let us know. Networking is what facebook is all about.


Yup:

http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/V-J-Chambers/75550165763


I have a page on FB as well...2 fans so far...well, that's a start anyway. I did not have great ambitions for it, I just wanted a place to discuss my novella...

My page:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Christine-Hall-Volkoff/156688900980?ref=nf


My site:

http://sites.google.com/site/chvolkoff


What's the advantage/disadvantage of a page opposed to a "person" listing? Or does it make much difference?


I don't really understand the page/group distinction myself, and the lack of any clear explanation is mildly annoying.


Anyway, there is, indeed, a City of Roses group:


http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21627094263


Damn, 31 members, not bad at all.


Damn, 31 members, not bad at all.


Obviously, what I'm implying with this thread is that any of us that are on FaceBook connect, and join each other's groups.

This is a powerful way to get your name and look out there.


I'm here http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#/profile.php?id=100000380715250&ref=profile


I don't regard FB as a valid networking tool really. The page I set up has only attracted a small percentage of my overall audience and only a few use it as a primary means of finding out when I update. The majority of people just check the site directly.


This might just be a difference in usage, though. I don't use FB personally as a networking too - everyone I know on there is someone I know in real life - while the page was set up not as a means of promotion, but as a way of keeping people updated (in the same manner as Twitter and RSS feeds). And since 98% of my readers are happy to stick to the main site and don't require rss/facebook/twitter I'm happy to keep it that way.


Well, no if you don't use it for networking, it's not a valid network tool. Those who use it find it effective.

(The one I don't see any use for, promotionally, is twitter--people follow people they already know, I don't see any outreach there.


If you don't mind my pointing this out--somebody just ASKED about your Facebook page and you didn't bother to show it. So no, it probably doesn't help you any.


With a little work, Facebook is a very powerful tool that snowballs contacts and can put the RSS feed for your project in front of a growing number of people as you build contacts on contacts.


Forums like this are great--but are a closed system. Who is here besides other WF writers? Facebook can expose you to the world at large. Quicker and more efficiently than anything I know of. If you know of something better, please share.


If you don't mind my pointing this out--somebody just ASKED about your Facebook page and you didn't bother to show it. So no, it probably doesn't help you any.


Incorrect. There was a link there. This forum has an odd habit of not underlinking links and displaying them in a colour very close to that of basic text, however...


Forums like this are great--but are a closed system. Who is here besides other WF writers? Facebook can expose you to the world at large. Quicker and more efficiently than anything I know of. If you know of something better, please share.


Unless you plan on being on of those hideously annoying people who go around sending out hundreds of friend requests to random people every day, then is Facebook not a closed system also? People 'friend' people they know, or who they have at least met in some capacity, which means FB is just an extention of your own personal social life.


I don't know anyone who would randomly ad a person they didn't know, unless there was a comical reason (say the friend request was from a duck). Similarly they don't become fans of a page or join a group unless they already have an interest in it.


People who send out random friend requests are no better than people trying to sell you cock-enlargement via email. People ignore those sorts of requests. Unless they're from bands, but that's an entirely different art form and the fact that MySpace is built around music these days (and its target demographics rate music far more than they do literature) means its an acceptable networking method.


I've found targeted advertising the most successful form of exposure. It's had a bigger impact than every other resource combined.


You don't really seem to get the concept. And again, coming on with "hideously annoying" and other empty negatvism. I wish you'd stop that.


There are no "ads" involved. The whole network idea is based on NOT hitting on people you don't know or have no connection with.


I don't understand your negativity to ways of promoting WF off this site. There are those who want more readership, who want contacts. If you don't then none of this applies to you.


Gimme a break, OK?


(PS, regarding you invisible link: perhaps you should just paste in the URL without trying to make a text link out of it. a href is not among the tags the forum says it supports.)


For the record, in case other Facebook-challenged people read this, there is no need so send out hundreds of spam mails to strangers as suggested.


The way to work it is expanding a network through like interests. OK, let's say you never did this before. There are like 4 pages in this thread. Add them as contacts, then look at THEIR contacts, see if you have mutual contacts. Search for people you know and like, writers and stores and publications you are a fan of.


So you're on the Twilight fan page and a pals with acouple of other web writers. You share your RSS or comment on those pages. Among the many who do so. Maybe somebody sees it and gets hold of you.


There is plenty of room between mindless mega-spamming, which I doubt anybody here is interested in and avoiding Facebook because you don't know how it works.


This thread was for the purpose of putting WFG writers in touch with each other on Facebook.


I don't see any need for dissing that.


"I'm not on Facebook but I am on Twitter.

twitter--people follow people they already know, I don't see any outreach there"


I haven't found that to be the case at all. I may have seen a very small number of the people I follow or who follow me comment here or in the WFG but I never really interacted with them until I 'got' twitter.


For a while I just used twitter to post updates - I could not see any other point to it and then I learned to 'speak up' on twitter, ask questions and listen to what others were saying.


I am not very good at speaking up on forums and tend to lurk 99% of the time. That's not the case on twitter because for the majority of the time it's a live experience.


I like to think I have become friends with the people on twitter rather than gained contacts. I certainly enjoy learning more about them as people and discovering more about their lives outside of the web fiction world. I have also discovered that if their tweets catch my interest their fiction is far more likely to as well.


If you haven't tried twitter yet - give it a go. If you have tried it and didn't see the point it's worth giving it another go too.


Thanks for the tip, Miladysa. And you're right, there is no point in writing something off just because I didn't "get it". (Ironically :-)


The thing is... spread the word. Use the tools available and learn how to use them.


An additional special case for weblit: at this point in this medium, promoting any weblit is also promoting the entire concept and community of writing on line.


Firstly the forums have no problem with href, it's just the css document doesn't style links in the usual underscored way.


This is a href link. It works perfectly fine!


Secondly my comments on all this networking business are based on experience. Back when it was the In Thing I used to get various friend requests on MySpace from authors attempting to promote their work. Only they weren't doing it very well. Unlike bands, most of whom send requests to people who list similar music tastes to what their style, authors would just send out requests to anyone who showed the remotest interest in writing.


It would be like starting a band and promoting it by sending friend requests to everyone who lists music as an interest. Not that the music scene is innocent - there are plenty of bands on MySpace who will flood your comments with identikit promotions.


Way to misunderstand social networking, guys!


See, I think we're approaching Facebook from different perceptives based on vastly different experiences. In my experience, people join a fanpage just for the badge. Only a very few will actively interact with it by posting on the wall and most people disable page-updates from appearing on their update feed because they're more interested in their friends and social contacts than they are about some update from something they became a fan of a few months ago on a whim.


Facebook isn't about marketing. It's about socialising. <i>Social</i> networking. Businesses are marketers are jumping on it because they misunderstand what the users are actually interested in. Same thing has happened with Twitter: as soon as it became popular there appeared a horde of marketing and spambots with no interesr in forging 'personal' relationships.


Which is what people tend to use it for. Updates on the lives of their friends. And celebrities.


PS. Given that this whole 'weblit' scene has gained me about 1% of my total readership, saying I'm not open to outside forms of promotion is a little bit silly :p I'm just not going to jump on every bandwagon that passes by without adequate reasoning and evidence :)


What is all the arguing and nitpicking about here? This should be a long list of people putting their facebook ads up her if they have them.


If you don't or don't think it's cool, forget it. Duh.


Our profile is here:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?id=1767293723&ref=ts


What we've been hearing is that we should have done a fan page or group. But we don't know zip about these networks and this seems to be working.


I've set up a page on Facebook too: http://www.facebook.com/MadilonOnline


I think the question isn't whether FB is effective or not. The thing is, in 2009, you _have_ to be on Facebook. :)


Probably something close to that, Terry.


Hey that Free eDay thing you have is INCREDIBLY COOL.


Exactly the sort of "Web 3" thing online writers should be doing.

I like the way you don't have to join or sign up or anything, just jump in.

I'm already thinking of what to do for it.


Do everybody a favor and start a thread on that event. It's major.


And, hey, I see they have a facebook group:


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=111815299387


From what I can tell, he difference between a Page and a personal profile, is this :

In the personal profile, you have a home page, where you can see the activity of all your friends, and you are only accessible if you have been "friended".

The Page, is accessible by all people logged on to FB, and they can add comments and write on your Wall, even if you haven't accepted them as friends.


I wanted a page, because I wanted people to have a place to comment on my stories. I am embarassed though, that in order to comment, they have to become "fans". I don't need to have fans, I only need to have interlocutors! I thought having a FB page would be a good thing. So far, I have three "fans" (thank you Lin!) and a few comments...


Yes, some for me: I don't need a Fan Page dedicated to myself. But a page for the web series is what I need: a way to start building a small community. Least I can say is that it's still a work in progress. But in time, I hope it'll grow and attract people who like to interact through Facebook (not all people do, some just set up their page and never post anything).