Do You Need a Review?

Hey, thanks for reading.

A little while back, I had my own webfiction going, and was so consumed with it that I didn't get to review anyone else's work--despite some promises I made.


The story is about to resume and before it does, I'd like to know if anyone would like their work reviewed? Truthfully, I'm trying to get a little attention (I won't lie), but we're all out here trying to succeed, so if you'd like me to take a look at your work, post a link and I'll get to it this week.


Thanks for reading and best of luck!


I'm going to need one at some point, but I'm not sure. I'll review your work as well, when you get your story up.


Actually it would be nice to have a review thread. I've seen them done before, it's like a chain game where people can only get reviews for their work once they've given to the person before:


http://www.fictionpress.com/topic/1867/221028/1/


Could be interesting to try it here? Especially since the changes to the main page may make it harder for unreviewed submissions to be found (? maybe, that's my take on the changes, won't know until we see I guess)


Um, don't we sort of already have one of those already? Effectively, at least?


http://forums.webfictionguide.com/topic/review-exchange


It has been known to go dead for short periods, I admit. In that respect it's very similar to my grandmother.


I'd say we could do with more articles about web fiction that actually reference serials ("villains in web fiction!" "successful cliffhangers!" "how to write a comedy sidekick!" "last week's dramatic events!" "coming up this week in the web serial world...!"). You know, the sort of articles you get in TV magazines and newspapers about shows/soaps.


Problem is, to write one you'd need to be at least familiar with, if not a dedicated reader of, a good variety of serials. Otherwise articles just end up mention the same few buzz-names every time.


I know I don't have much spare time, and I doubt many others do. That's the problem with being the writer! So there needs to be more readers willing to contribute XD


Given how I remember this being a problem around web serials 10 years ago and it doesn't appear to have changed, I doubt it will any time soon D:


The problem is, everyone's a writer. For a second I thought that was a Marx Brother's joke, but no, it turned out not to be.


Personally, I enjoy talking about the process of writing... the tropes involved, the ways a story tends to flow, the nature of storytelling and human understanding, that sort of stuff. I few of my friends and I discuss this sort of stuff all the time- I always find it helpful to see other people's world and character building. I'm actually surprised there isn't more of that going on around here. Since the Forum is occupied mostly by writers, I think this'd be a good place for us to Trope Up.


Web-series specific articles are a good idea- at Epiguide they had something similar going, last I checked- but the problem is that the sheer volume of work you'd have to integrate to do things fairly is overwhelming. I mean, the WFG staff alone spend some days with a backlog the size of Nevada (I'm actually almost afraid to submit new stuff, because I feel guilty about adding to the crush).


Still, it is doable. We just need to work out a way.


Reyben: Just looking quickly at that thread I think it's dead for a very real reason. 1) Reading Standards? How many writers can objectively assess the quality of their own work. If you didn't think it was good you wouldn't put it up O.o 2) It's basically a thread where people can say "Hey I'll review yours if you review mine" well what happens if you review and there is no return?


The thread I linked is slightly different.



Person 1: Please review "This."


Person 2: I reviewed two chapters of "This." ch 5-6. please review two chapters of "That."


Person 3: I reviewed five chapters of "That." (chapters 1-5), please review five chapters of "Yay."


Person 4: I reviewed five chapters of "Yay.", ch 3-7. "Story" only has four chapters, so please review all of them.


Person 5: I am reviewing 4 ch of "Story". Edit: Done, ch 10-14.! Please review 4 chapters of "Singular"


So in order for a person to GET a review they HAVE TO review the person who posted before them in the thread, regardless of quality of the writing. And the person who got a review is under no obligation to be the one to return the favor. It's a chain game that exploits everyone's self-interest for the good of the review system.


It could help the ratings system become more useful. People tend to choose not to review or rate if a story is .... lacking, but some stories have no reviews not because they're not good but because they're not in genres that readers are really interested in. Under the current WFG setup once they're no longer new these stories get BURIED because they're unrated/reviewed and now readers who might be interested can't even find them.


The problem is, everyone's a writer. For a second I thought that was a Marx Brother's joke, but no, it turned out not to be.


Personally, I enjoy talking about the process of writing... the tropes involved, the ways a story tends to flow, the nature of storytelling and human understanding, that sort of stuff. I few of my friends and I discuss this sort of stuff all the time- I always find it helpful to see other people's world and character building. I'm actually surprised there isn't more of that going on around here. Since the Forum is occupied mostly by writers, I think this'd be a good place for us to Trope Up.


Web-series specific articles are a good idea- at Epiguide they had something similar going, last I checked- but the problem is that the sheer volume of work you'd have to integrate to do things fairly is overwhelming. I mean, the WFG staff alone spend some days with a backlog the size of Nevada (I'm actually almost afraid to submit new stuff, because I feel guilty about adding to the crush).


Still, it is doable. We just need to work out a way.


I like reading/talking about writing too. It can be a great way to promote series too! It is rather odd that few people seem willing to discuss writing in a forum of writers...


Back when I used the epiguide in the early millennium, a lot of the articles relied on author submissions. They'd set a subject, then ask authors to contribute with examples from their own series. It was a good idea, though sometimes the article could end up reading like a bunch of press releases :S They had an awards thing too, which wasn't based on reader votes (because obviously the more popular series would win every time).


I guess a solution would be to have people whose sole job would be to write articles/content. Payment could come in the form of a link to their series, if they're an author, on the article. Maybe have one of those crazy incentive schemes where articles/interaction are rewarded with increased exposure for their series? Readers would need some other kind of incentive, obviously. And setting the whole thing up would be effort in itself...


You just can't win XD


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The reviews will not show up here, but it's another source for getting eyeballs. My story, An Empire of Law, is being reviewed this week.


I do not currently have a major need for reviews. An evolving work is necessarily incomplete. Reviews can wait. In place of reviews I go for readers. Mainly via Twitter which is down as I write this. Notice is also good. So too comments. A good brief comment does more for me than a review would at this point.


I've only had one review so far and wouldn't mind another.


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thanks


Randilin


Re the articles and so on, without spoiling to much of the secrecy, The Big Plan I've got in the pipes would include this. I'm not quite sure yet what the format will be, which is the main reason I'm being so secretive. But because I'm the Queen of Procrastination I do want to be public about some stuff, because otherwise I'll never finish the project.


Anyway, september is coding month, which means all the details will be worked out, which means I can share the definite details with you guys.


I would love a review on my blogfic, but have been reluctant to ask for one because I haven't been able to get time to do any reviews myself. Turnabout is fair play. ;)


Hopefully I'll get the chance soon!


Pretty much the same story here - I'd appreciate a review, but I've spread myself so thin lately I hardly have time to work on my own fiction, let alone review somebody else's.


Wow, this certainly generated a lot of buzz. Universal Warrior relaunches in two hours at


http://universalwarrioronline.com.


If you're into martial-arts driven fantasy (war between Heaven and Hell), you might want to take a look.


In the meantime, I will be reviewing @_windy's "The Lighthouse Chronicles -Diamond Dust-" on Friday, the 21st.


I included a full list of reviews for the coming weeks, and added a lot of what I found here. Take a look! If you'd like a review, feel free to drop me a line at [email protected] Hopefully we can all generate some publicity for each other!


If anyone has twitter, I'm at @IronMan1176. Special thanks to AllanTMichaels for pointing us in the direction of the efictionbook club! (http://efictionbookclub.wordpress.com)


Hell I could always use another review.


Mask of the Snake

http://popeterry666.blogspot.com/2009/02/saturday-serial_21.html


I'd say we could do with more articles about web fiction that actually reference serials ("villains in web fiction!" "successful cliffhangers!" "how to write a comedy sidekick!" "last week's dramatic events!" "coming up this week in the web serial world...!"). You know, the sort of articles you get in TV magazines and newspapers about shows/soaps.


@Dary Would you mind if I stole/attempted your idea? It sounds like fun! I can't say I've read everything out there but I do read a lot.


I have started a weekly webfic author interview on my blog (first post is here) but it could be interesting to write a post which advertises a range of authors instead of focusing on one.


p.s. I'm @am_harte on twitter if anyone of y'all are on there and we haven't followed each other yet.


Sure, it's not like I patented it (bugger). I remember the Epiguide doing such things back in the early millennium.


When you're writing one you could always shout out to writers to see if they have anything to contribute, so you're not limited to what you yourself have read. Problem there is avoiding cheesy PR. You can avoid that by asking readers, rather than writers, but I find readers more elusive! These communities are always filled with writers trying to pimp their work...to other writers XD


I guess the writer and reader breeds often overlap. :)


I could do a shout-out I guess, perhaps here on WFG? Although I'd probably have to put a limit on it, like 10 or so. I could always write up a follow-up blog with the next 10 if people showed enough interest.


OR I could make it that people could only nominate stories that were not their own. That could work!


Sorry. I'll stop being off-topic now. :)