Gryphonwood Press now taking web fiction subs

Hi guys!

It gives me great pleasure to announce that Gryphonwood Press, which has (among other things) published my own serial Street, has given the green light for a great new experiment; we are now considering web fiction for publication in novel format.

We've added some web fiction-specific parts to our submission guidelines on the site, which are pretty clearly written as far as I can see, and I've taken the liberty of copying them here:

"Web Fiction Specific- Completed books or series submit as normal. For active stories, submissions must be in a publishable format, i.e. the book you want to submit must have a clear beginning, middle and end whether it is part of a series or not. Even if we pick up your story, we will not require you to take down your site."

What we do for authors is also clearly stated in our submission guidelines. It's a hell of a lot better than self-publishing, so if you've got a story that falls within our criteria and are brave enough to put your work to the test, we'd love to hear from you.

Note: We don't currently have a specific set of submission requirements, but as a rule we only take top-notch publishable work. For example, stories where much of the page count is dedicated to graphic sex have no chance, regardless of genre. We don't expect your stories to be completely anaemic or politically correct but please keep submissions sane in order to save our editors valuable time.

Please pick up/spread this announcement wherever it may be appropriate.


Ryan they'll continue doing this later on?

If so, maybe after I finish this current arc of Eikasia (and edit it extensively--I know that as it is right now it isn't good enough for publication) I'll try and send it in for consideration. Eikasia won't be 'complete', but the story arc I'm writing will have a clear 'beginning, middle, and end' by the time I'm through with it.

Thanks for telling us!

Oh yes, it's not a one-off event. This is a permanent opening of submissions to web fiction. There's no closing time or small print, the only way we might temporarily suspend submissions is if we get absolutely swamped with new subs. I don't reckon that's going to be a problem though.



this is fantastic news! i know i am nowhere near ready, but some others may be. in general, this is brilliant news for those looking for a publishing house for work they have already put up on the web. extra incentive now for me to forge ahead - with renewed vigour...

That is great news and I am sure you will be swamped :D

That's great!

I'll bite. Give it a try at least.

I'll send in a submission on the morrow.

Well, Ryan, I've never done a count of how many pages of the History are graphic sex and how many are not. Big chunks will go by where there isn't so much as a handshake, especially in book 2. I'm curious about submitting, but I don't want to waste your editor's time if you think I shouldn't. (I'm just egotistical enough to take that sex comment personally. ;) )

Thanks for the encouragement, guys! We're very pleased with the response we're getting at the moment, and I'm glad I managed to talk Dave into doing it. ;)

MeiLin: If you genuinely think your story's good enough to win people over with or without graphic material, then I encourage you to go ahead and submit. The sex clause exists mainly to help weed out the worst offenders. However, it's Dave's decision in the end-up and I can't say for sure what his verdict would be, so the only sure way to lose is not to submit at all.



If you've already put your book up through Lulu (or some other POD distributor) what are the guidelines? Do you have to discontinue your Lulu run before submitting or only if accepted? And are you allowed to submit your own artwork for the cover?

Sarah: Those are things we usually arrange on a case-by-case basis, I'd recommend sending a query letter to Dave about it before you make any decisions.

Dave's a pretty reasonable guy, so I imagine he'd only expect a stop to Lulu runs in case of acceptance. It does make it a bit less attractive for us to pick up a book that's already available in print, though.

We do indeed consider own artwork for covers, for example I arranged my own art for the Street series (which promptly got the artist hired as our go-to cover guy), and we do go out of our way to help and accommodate authors. The only real caveat is that we reserve the right to reject art if it'd make Gryphonwood look bad as a publisher, i.e. unacceptable content or quality.

For anyone who doesn't have/want their own artwork, we can get in touch with Jan (see Street: Empathy and our new anthology cover preview) on your behalf and see if he's available.



Awesome, so I just made a submission. I'll wait for the reply, but how long does it usually take him to get back to authors on their submissions?

It depends on the submission, usually. Some are obvious rejections, while other subs may take a full read-through before a decision can be made. A particularly tough decision can take a few months.

At the moment there may be another slight delay because we're moving the site to different hosting. Things should be straightened out soon though.



A novel synopsis, I has it. Would anyone care to take a look at it before I send it off?

I believe the idea below should be vice versa...

"Availability- Gryphonwood titles are registered with Books-in-Print and the Library of

Congress, and are provided with an ISBN number. Books are available through all

major online retailers, and are available to be stocked, fully returnable, in bookstores.

As a new publisher, our emphasis at this time is on online sales."

As a new publisher of print books GW should be looking at getting books into bookstores.

There's hundreds of small press companies who sell online only. (Although having returnable books is a great step in the right direction.)

I just feel that for a small or new publishing company to succeed, they need to get books into bookshops.

The authors need to self-promote big time also.

Get their books into local bookstores where they live.

Have a book signing morning, advertised in advance.

Mention it to the local newspaper.

Have friends in other areas that frequent a particular bookshop on a regular basis ask if they can have your novel on dispaly in that shop.

Take a hundred copies to any big book conventions in and around the local area.

(A mate of mine in the UK does about one book Con a month, sometimes he sells one or two, other times he's sold all the books he took with him.)

Whatever genre the book is: Historical, sci-fi, crime etc...both the Publishing Company and the author needs to join webforums specific to the genre and post up about their novel.

Although some forums (and I'm gonna be polite and not mention any names, but they're mainly SF and F forums) don't allow self-promotion.

I'm at a loss to understand why they don't want their members learning about new, small press books, but there ya go.

But print books need to be sold in bookshops.

That's the bottom line.

Otherwise you're just a POD online publisher...and there's no shortage of them.

It just depends on how serious a publisher is about joining the major players.

Online books sales is the minor league.

Now having said all that I've got a book out soon that will only be sold online...but it's a genre specific novel and I know the market for it is small.

So I've already joined and got to know and made mention of it on the forums that the book is aimed at.

So sometimes online can work...but normally for small genre or specific subjects.

Cheers: Jaq.

We offer a better deal to authors than any simple POD vanity business. Our books have a genuine unique ISBN (unlike CreateSpace), our prices are competitive (unlike Lulu) and we don't demand payment for "editing, design and promotional services" (unlike Booksurge).

As for other small publishers, sure, they exist. That's not a problem. It doesn't really make our business model any less successful. We still get a high volume of submissions and our titles always stand out. Fair contracts, a rapidly-expanding catalogue and high quality standards make us a good choice for both beginning authors and experienced ones.



As a new publisher of print books GW should be looking at getting books into bookstores.

Isn't this the responsibility of both the bookstore buyers at the main or regional office and the individual bookstore manager? At least, that's what I remembered from working the bookstore gig years ago.

Let's not confuse people...POD is Print On Demand...a POD is not a publisher...they are just are a printing service. POD and a Vanity Press is two different things.

Lulu uses Lightening Source to print their books.

I really wish your company all the best, Winter.

I just think that your ultimate aim should be to get your books into actual bookstores.

That's where the money is, both for the publisher and the author(s).

Jaqhama: Of course it's one of our aims. However, if it were as simple as you make it out to be, a lot more small publishers would be available on bookstore shelves. It's really not. A few friends calling up or visiting individual stores is not going to make anyone think twice. Not to be insulting, but it's a pretty naive view of the industry.

In order to create demand in bookstores where shelf space is at a massive premium, and most shops stock less than 1% of the current worldwide fiction catalogue, you'd need to put in dozens of orders -- maybe hundreds -- to multiple stores consistently every month. We'd love that to happen but at the moment we simply don't have the funds or customer support to do it. Considering that we only started publishing print books in 2007, I think our growth has been pretty spectacular as it is, and expecting a leap to bookstores right now is jumping the gun more than a little bit.

By the way, where does your mate live? I might be interested in tagging along to some of these book cons.



Ryan, do you know what the slush pile currently looks like? Not that I'm anxious or anything *whistling* but it'd be nice to know if I'm looking at a weeks' long wait or a months' long wait for my rejection letter. :)