Radish the reading app

Anyone seen this? Its an App, and a serial platform. Paywall on individual updates for a week, then free to read after, so you can either read free or pay to get a touch ahead?


Anyone read on it, write on it?


I'm literally not even going to bother formatting these properly:


http://forums.webfictionguide.com/topic/radish-fiction#post-22397


http://forums.webfictionguide.com/topic/radish-ama#post-22418


Leo did have some interesting stuff to say about the app. He's really good at finding weird opportunities:


http://forums.webfictionguide.com/topic/traditional-publishing-for-web-serials#post-25404


http://forums.webfictionguide.com/topic/web-serial-to-ebook-mistakes-i-made-so-you-dont-have-to/page/2#post-25909


aww damn, im a moron. Thanks Billy, I remember this now. I was under the impression from something I saw that this was a new app that just started last month.


There is also Tapas.io, a similar concept that's not brand new anymore and (in my humble opinion) has better chances for long-term success. It already has millions of readers instead of 300'000. Also, web comics and less of a focus on romance. If I remember correctly, some of the involved authors are actually big names.


There was a thread on kboards about them: http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,253323


Thanks for the compliment Billy!


Radish is a neat platform but their fanbase currently focused on the Romance genre. In the future they'll likely branch out into other genres and I think they'll be a major player if they can do this successfully. Just the other day they restructured their genres so hopefully this is a sign of good things to come!


If you write romance, drop everything and head over. However, the organic growth you'll see off Radish at present for other genres is low. I haven't posted in maybe a year, so perhaps things have changed. Check out their home page on the app for a feeling of their fanbase- much of it is built from wattpad users so it correlates highly with their interests.


I had a chance to meet a few of the people over at Radish and think they are extremely bright, motivated, and open to new ideas. Really you can't go wrong writing for them, but I'm not sure if we're at the inflection point yet where it will be profitable for non Romance writers.


What I can tell you is yes, you will get paid, and yes, people do pay for individual chapters. Again, their team is awesome and I have nothing negative to say about them, and in the future I think it could be a very viable way of earning money.


leo, that explains it, the places ive seen it mentioned the last couple weeks are romance and genre erotica forums.


Does anyone at all have any first-hand experience with tapas.io? I'm extremely curious, I just don't know anyone who's using it. :(


I only know of one writer who uses tapas and that's the writer of Odd&Ends.


@Chrysalis


Hello! I currently have a novel on Tapas.io called "The Beginning After The End". I've been on there for only about half a year now but feel free to ask me any questions; I'll do my best to answer them. Oh, and I've also been invited to write on Radish and tried, but I really didn't like it >_<.


tutrleme can you please expand on your experiences?


@ turtleme like leo said, could you share your experiences? I think there's quite a few of us here on WFG who are curious about Tapas. :)


In particular...


-Do they demand exclusivity? Can you post elsewhere as well?

-Are the earnings worth the effort?

-What's the fan community like? Do they frequently interact with you?

-Are there any 'rules' about length and frequency of updates?

-Is there a mandatory paywall or can you provide as much free content as you like?


@ Holly: Sorry about hijacking your thread. <3


@leoduhvinci

@Chrysalis


I'll start off by answering the questions you asked.


-Do they demand exclusivity? Can you post elsewhere as well?


--So Tapas is a bit different in that there are premium content and self-published content. Premium content is where Tapas actually sees your novel as something worth "investing" in. By this, I mean they put up a lot of effort in making sure your novel as a good chance of being discovered and helps you with promotions. The self-published content is where you use the tapas dashboard to post your novel on their platform yourself (they recently started this for novels).


Getting back to your main question, Premium is where Tapas asks you whether you want to sign with them exclusively or not. If you sign with the exclusively, you get a bigger piece of the pie in terms of revenue and they help you much more with promotions (plus the fact that it's exclusive only to Tapas makes it so that your readers have to go to them)


Personally, I chose not to sign an exclusive contract because I have my own website and I publish on Amazon as well. While I don't get as much percentage of earnings, I still think it's a good side income. (tl;dr: no they certainly do not demand exclusivity; you just get perks if you do)


-Are the earnings worth the effort?


--I would say it's certainly worth trying. As I said above, for the premium model, you either have to apply or get scouted. Just to give a baseline, when my novel was ranked number 8 on the top charts, my cut was around $350.00. Again, I stress that this is the premium model. In the non-premium, you are responsible for uploading your own chapters (for premium, they do it for you) and managing your release schedule. For this model, your novel will be up on their platform for absolutely free. The upside is that you get ad revenue from readers reading your novel. Also, if you manage to get above 250 subscribers, you can activate tipping so that your readers/fans can tip you coins that can be cashed in for monetary value. I don't know if there is a threshold for generating ad revenue but I know that you need 250 subscribers to activate tipping.


-What's the fan community like? Do they frequently interact with you?


--I think the fan community is great, imo. I have around 20 comments per release and the readers get very active in the comment section. I'm not the most sociable person so I rarely

respond back but when you make an account, you have your own "wall", sort of like facebook, where you can do shoutouts to your readers with announcements or you can comment directly on your chapters and respond to them. They also have their own forums and I found the community there pretty amiable. The forums are mostly composed of content creators and most of them are webcomic creators, but I see more and more writers popping up on the forums.


-Are there any 'rules' about length and frequency of updates?


--While you do have a 15,000 character (roughly around 7000 words) limit, their whole "motto" is bite-sized episodes, so your novel will certainly do better if it's around 1k per episode.

My chapters run around 2.5-3k words so I just split them into parts, but that's just me. The whole demographic of readers on tapas is usually getting their daily snippets of their favorite stories on their short downtime. Most of your readers won't be sitting at home with a cup of coffee with time set aside for a whole novel so you have to keep that into account. Frequency wise, I would say--as with any web serial--you have to be consistent and professional. Uploading once or twice a week to start off with is plenty. I also wouldn't upload too frequently so that your readers can wait and anticipate a bit more.


Again, I have a non-exclusive premium contract with them so it's a bit different for me. I work out a release schedule with the tapas staff that helps me with my novel and I have to go by that, but for the free model, the one where you can just make an account and upload on your own, you're free to upload whenever you please.


-Is there a mandatory paywall or can you provide as much free content as you like?


--So premium model, there is a mandatory paywall. That's the whole aspect of making a novel "premium". What I think is cool about Tapas is that readers can either purchase coins for real money (that are used to buy keys to unlocking episodes) or watch ads in exchange for coins. For the free model, your novel will be completely free for readers to view. And, again, when you get enough subscribers, you will be able to activate tipping so readers can have the option of thanking you through coins, which you can then exchange for money.


As for my experience with Radish:


This is going to sound like I'm hating on them but I'm really just trying to be objective from my personal experience (underline personal).


What I noticed with Tapas is that the readers who visit the novel section are more often females so Tapas stories that have romance (whether hetero or homosexual) tend to fair a bit better. My novel is more fantasy adventure so it caters a bit more towards males but I still managed to get in the top 5 spot so there's that.


Going off on the point above, both Radish and Tapas have more female readers, but the Radish fictions that do well are skewed towards heavy, toe-curling romance (twilight level) and straight up erotica stories.


The Radish representative reached out to me saying that they think my novel will be a great addition as they are hoping to expand their novel genres, so I tried it out. Since both Tapas (premium) and Radish are invite-only, I assumed that they would give around the same treatment of my novel on Radish as Tapas did, but that wasn't the case. They threw me a few links and said that's all you need.


The thing that frustrated me on Radish is that there are no "new" or "just released" or even "trending" section. You can either only look from the most popular and scroll down, or search alphabetically. Either way, it's near impossible for a new novel to be even discovered unless Radish chooses to do a feature of your novel (which they only do if your novel becomes "worthy") So I felt like I was in this loop where I needed to be featured to be discovered but I also needed to be discovered to become featured.


All in all, I saw maybe two novels that were anything remotely close to fantasy; the rest were pure romance with vampires and werewolves or princes from hell and the like.


Again, this is MY personal experience so don't rule it out just on my experience alone. I just found that tapas had a much more diverse array of genres and readers more open to reading stories that went outside of erotica and romance.


Something to note for Tapas, though, is that it is a fair amount harder to get your novel noticed on the free model because there are so many people uploading. There is a "fresh" section that shows both premium and nonpremium novels so you can at least expect some views. There is also a "staff pick" and "new and noteworthy" section that cater towards premium but actually mostly nonpremium novels. So if you get featured in that, you can definitely expect some bumps in viewership.


All in all, I feel that Tapas gives your novel a more fair chance of being discovered than Radish, HOWEVER, if you do manage to get in the top spots on Radish, your revenue will be a fair amount higher than Tapas.


If you're looking to generate an income from your novel, tapas won't be a great place unless you can get invited to have your work as a premium novel (but then you run into the paywall problem). However, Tapas is a great platform to get a new crowd of readers to look at your work (I have a reader base on my website and new reader base on Tapas).


Please excuse my grammar as I rarely double check what I write on forums, and if you have any more questions, I'll be more than happy to answer. :)


Do you know how comics fare?


When you say 350, is that 350/week or 350 flat?


Turtleme, that was AMAZINGLY useful informatoin on both platforms. thank you!


Thanks for the info, turtleme!


I'd probably only start on Tapas if I got a non-exclusive premium deal. The new ebook will be up on Amazon before anything else, even my before blog - I guess a good performance / good reviews on Amazon should help with the premium model.


I used to consider Wattpad but I just don't have time to be part of the community there. I want my stories to speak for me, not my comments left on someone else's book. I'm glad to hear Tapas isn't like Wattpad in that regard.


@leoduhvinci


Sorry I didn't specify; $350 a month. As for comics, I know that there is a much larger audience since that's been around quite a bit longer. How much, exactly, I wouldn't know :(


@Alexander.Hollins


No problem! I'm glad the long post I wrote was worth reading!


@Chrysalis


I'd certainly say that there's nothing to lose from trying out Tapas. Even if it's not much, getting tipped from readers just because they appreciate what you write really says a lot about the community.


$350 a month is nothing to sneeze at. That's probably more than 99.9% of web serialists make.


Definitely! If I sounded condescending about the amount in any way, forgive me. $350 dollars is definitely quite a bit, but it's worth noting that that was when my novel was on the top 10 chart. This chart has the most visibility and is given a bit more special treatment in terms of being featured. I gave the specific amount to give a general outline of how much the "ceiling" is currently. The staff aren't able to tell me how much the number one spot makes but by my estimations on the number two spot, I'd say around $900-$1200.


In comparison, the representative from Radish highlighted that the top writer on their platform rakes in multiple thousands--close to 10k or more--so the "ceiling" is much higher.


Hope that helps :).


turtleme,


How do comics work there? Do you get paired with an artist?


If you were to get started on Tapas, what would be the best way to begin? Do you contact someone to apply for the premium branch or do you work your way up from the bottom?


Thanks!


Leo


@leoduhvinci


I have very limited knowledge in the comic area so I'm not the best source for answers but I'll try my best to answer. Tapas doesn't directly pair you up with an artist. There are artists looking for writers in the forums but there wouldn't be a way for your novel to be turned into a comic unless you work together with someone independently.


If you're fine with the premium model (having your novel be locked for readers unless they pay) I would suggest you at least apply to see if tapas likes your novel. If you get your novel onto their platform as a premium, you'll have a staff working directly with you to ensure that each upload is to your liking. They are the ones that actually release episodes onto Tapas so your hands are free of the nitty-gritty of formatting your novel into their "format".


If, for some reason, Tapas does not accept your manuscript, then you can simply upload your novel through their dashboard and start from the bottom up!


Hope that helps.


Brandon